Warrior Slam and Basic Attack OP/Broken AF

[Beta Ray Shill]

Decided to test the warrior - SSF, no trading, no build guide, no crafting beyond weapon runes, same shared stash as the sorc, merc and ranger I tested with.

Well it looks like the ‘get gud’ keyboard warriors are also POE2 warriors as well - because it’s clear now this is the ‘turn your brain off’ class.

The slam and especially the basic attack are so OP that bosses are shredded with even just basic magic weapons. By the time I got to Ekbab and Iktab, I was one-shotting the big shield guys (without even removing the shield) and the boss fight itself was just me swinging the basic attack until the were annihilated.

And I thought the ranger was OP as she was shredding through these bosses compared to the sorc - but the warrior can’t even let them begin the fight!

Basic attack and slam need a massive nerf. There’s no point in even playing the game the way they are now.

Superficially, the shield attacks and totems etc add strategy but there’s never an opportunity to use them since slam and basic are so overtuned.

The ‘fire molten rocks’ attack is a joke - doesn’t even do damage from what I can tell.

The ‘boneshatter’ - had it equipped, never once saw the indicator during stun. Then of course they all just died in one shot to slam/basic attack.

Armour attack - bugged if you add the ‘25% speed enhancement’: it gets stuck repeating it until you remove the speed gem.

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Geonor

Warrior - 2:22min (laughable - I don’t think the boss even got to use the ice rain attack)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuvb47oqZXg
Ranger - 5:18min (thought he had about 10% too much HP but otherwise seemed normal difficulty)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhweuUu4io0

Ekbab and Iktab

Warrior - 1:14min (started trying to use skills, then just went ‘face-tank’ with the basic attack because what’s the point in thinking with this guy?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_TWO8QxSKc
Sorc - 4:19min (seems like a normal game that requires thinking and allows the boss to use all mechanics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IC-ViGU2-M
Merc - 2:43 (thought he was slightly OP here)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EohpiK3UXdw

Draven

Warrior - 0:44min (perfect mindlessness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZwEwoDHWk
Ranger - 1:24min (thought she was OP here but nothing like the warrior)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REOgkXFK5GQ

Asina

Warrior - 0:38min (with just a basic magic weapon????)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsXrEdUWq5E
Ranger - 1:44min (again, thought was obviously OP versus the sorc on the same but clearly not!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA0o_Y6LNJ8

Rudja

Warrior - 1:05min (this boss fight actually caused tons of deaths with the other classes, esp as she was ‘allowed’ to do her explosion attack several times over the fight - here? What can you say…)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8QuExtna28

[Vircyo]

♥♥♥♥ bait, no clown rewards for you

[TheGiantWood]

Every class has the potential to be "broken", but some cost a lot more resources/time investment than others. You'll see when you get to mapping.

[Beta Ray Shill]

Originally posted by Vircyo:

♥♥♥♥ bait, no clown rewards for you

Haha - posted the video evidence. You might want to click on that or at least read the numbers before you shoot yourself in the foot.

[Beta Ray Shill]

Originally posted by TheGiantWood:

Every class has the potential to be "broken", but some cost a lot more resources/time investment than others. You'll see when you get to mapping.

No interest in mapping. Only interested in comparing the classes at the campaign level.

If the building blocks are clearly broken for certain classes over others, then something has gone wrong.

You can see from the videos (esp the E&K fight) that the warrior requires absolutely no thought. Just walk in and click basic attack.

None of the other classes come close to that level of broken.

[Vircyo]

Originally posted by Beta Ray Shill:

Originally posted by Vircyo:

♥♥♥♥ bait, no clown rewards for you

Haha - posted the video evidence. You might want to click on that or at least read the numbers before you shoot yourself in the foot.

dont care enough to watch the vids tbh

[TyresTyco]

Well, thats one hell of a troll thread with a lot of effort 9/10 points. Best trolling attempt in the forums right now.

I still dont give you awards for this since only idiots reward trolling.

[Beta Ray Shill]

Originally posted by Vircyo:

dont care enough to watch the vids tbh

LMFAO. Then you should think twice before you write 'bait' and there's a wall of video evidence in the first post. You never know, the person who went to the trouble of recording it might not having been trying to create bait.

[Beta Ray Shill]

Originally posted by TyresTyco:

Well, thats one hell of a troll thread with a lot of effort 9/10 points. Best trolling attempt in the forums right now.

I still dont give you awards for this since only idiots reward trolling.

Video evidence mentioned in the actual OP.

Here's a random one for ya since the prospect of going over the full evidence and being proven wrong seems to be too much to cope with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_TWO8QxSKc

Exbab and Iktab. No even requirement to use the skills in the fight. Just there spamming the basic attack and they both got wiped at the same time haha.

Comical.

But of course if they actually balance this out, it'll force the 'git gud' warrior brigade to have to play the game like everyone else who's making legitimate complaints about the balance.

[Vircyo]

Originally posted by Beta Ray Shill:

Originally posted by Vircyo:

dont care enough to watch the vids tbh

LMFAO. Then you should think twice before you write 'bait' and there's a wall of video evidence in the first post. You never know, the person who went to the trouble of recording might not having been trying to create bait.

Ye m8, I'll pop that right on the new years resolution to do list

[Beta Ray Shill]

Originally posted by Vircyo:

Ye m8, I'll pop that right on the new years resolution to do list

It'll certainly save ya shooting yourself in the foot - that comes in handy in life.

Shooting from the hip - not so much.

[Aluvii]

That just depends on the gear drops, had it easy on my Warrior too because i had some exalted orbs to craft a weapon. Started dying in Act 3, but just respecced with more armor in the tree, then it was easy again. Close to finish chaos now, so it will be interesting to see how it is in maps.

[Alpha]

Alright so i watched ur first video, unique helm (i have it and its good its 4 stats are Pct armour strength dex and intelligence), rare weapon (thats level 16 as ur level 16 so max weapon), frost resist charm, hp regen amulet, with rare armour with hp regen and probably more on what you didnt show but the point

This was act 1 final boss, your gear alone made the difference not warrior being op. Only watched the 1 video to know this is all fake and staged. I will apllaud the lengths you went.

[Regaki]

Please get to the endgame with warrior and make some videos then so I can see how op it is.

Look forward to the videos of you getting 1-shot by trash mobs.

[Beta Ray Shill]

Originally posted by Aluvii:

That just depends on the gear drops, had it easy on my Warrior too because i had some exalted orbs to craft a weapon.

Definitely not the same.

All 4 classes that were tested use the same shared stash of rares that were collected.

The Asina test as you can see just uses a basic magic weapon that was bought from the shop (done in 0:38min):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsXrEdUWq5E
There was no requirement to engage with the boss mechanics because the warrior's basic attack hits so hard.

And even the collosus fight was done with extreme lag going on (which you can see in the video), plus the fact that his hit boxes seem all over the place for melee, so most of time missing unless you aim for the hand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeo11DNKuZs
Still no effort required.

There is something way, way off.

Also, I would say my 'custom build' must be a joke to some - I've invested multiple points in life regen, when I never get to see that actually happen.

[ex_IllusionisT]

Show this to the thousands of people crying that melee is bad.