Path of Exile 2

Path of Exile 2

The Trials for Ascendancy
This ends up not a skill issue but a stupid RNG issue, its fine for all those copy cut paste OP build 3 sec shot bosses players, but the reality is it kind of blows from a NORMAL players(not casual not hardcore somewhere in between which means it sucks for normies) perspective because everything with this game thus far does the exact opposite of what the lead developer claims the game tries to correct, it just goes out of its way to make you say screw it and go with whatever is the flavor build rather than actually play the way you want to play Ultimatum has always been garbage, with garbage rewards and a slot machine of stupidity whatever developer seems to be in love with this needs to knock it off already, the Trial of the Sekma for the 3rd ascendancy is just the same garbage of slot machine negatives to your play and its completely non-conducive to play types even with the nerfs, it doesn't feel good its jank AF and just prevents you from playing your character.
Knock off the slot machine negatives, the honor thing was stupid to begin with cannot wait to try and do a thorns/block build and not be able to do ascendancy at all because of this.
Can a developer actually care enough to not do this to players, the internet version of get good is play the broken build at that time which is just the toxic fanbase who doesn't give 2 craps about other players and gatekeeps, If it was a skill issue I get it, but its not, there is nothing that feels worse than not even dying but running out of honor and not having a chance to actually die for it to be ended. Its not cathartic and it feels jank and stupid, both of them, can we have the Labyrinth back but without the dumb random trials in maps crap, JUST LET ME HAVE ACTUAL FUN AND CHALLENGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not more slot machine BS, the gear is already that there is no need for 20 different layers of RNG stacked on top of RNG like its a gotcha game, its dumb stupid and lazy game design.
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DirtyMick Dec 30, 2024 @ 3:01pm 
Prove yourself! Only then may you ascend.
Last edited by DirtyMick; Dec 30, 2024 @ 3:01pm
TrashPanda Dec 30, 2024 @ 3:54pm 
Originally posted by DirtyMick:
Prove yourself! Only then may you ascend.
Prove your intelligent first then we will listen to your opinion.

Trial of suck my ass can GTFO, I would rather play with out the 3rd ascendancy than subject myself to that masochistic gatcha ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
CaliburxZero Dec 30, 2024 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by DirtyMick:
Prove yourself! Only then may you ascend.
Quiet down elitist. I've beaten all ascendancy trials and this criticism is valid. I bet you can't even handle T10+ Maps.
gachi is manly Dec 30, 2024 @ 4:00pm 
3rd ascendancy isn't even that bad anymore since they gave melee 35% less honor loss. You load up on relics that have % honor resistance and it's pretty easy.

Not that I think it's a good system. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if it changed. I just wish people would stop acting like the 3rd ascendancy is some unsurmountable task.

Annoying? Sure.

Tedious? You betcha.

Super difficult? Not really. Not anymore.
Last edited by gachi is manly; Dec 30, 2024 @ 4:04pm
CaliburxZero Dec 30, 2024 @ 4:04pm 
Originally posted by gachi is manly:
3rd ascendancy isn't even that bad anymore since they gave melee 35% less honor loss. You load up on relics that have honor less resistance and it's pretty easy.

Not that I think it's a good system. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if it changed. I just wish people would stop acting like the 3rd ascendancy is some unsurmountable task.

Annoying? Sure.

Tedious? You betcha.

Super difficult? Not really. Not anymore.

You are right IF and ONLY IF RNG doesn't screw you on the debuffs you receive. This would also assume someone has built up their gear up enough through trading, and not everyone does alot of trading.
Ghostlight Dec 30, 2024 @ 4:06pm 
This system is embarrassingly bad, and shames the game.
TrashPanda Dec 30, 2024 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by gachi is manly:
3rd ascendancy isn't even that bad anymore since they gave melee 35% less honor loss. You load up on relics that have honor less resistance and it's pretty easy.

Not that I think it's a good system. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if it changed. I just wish people would stop acting like the 3rd ascendancy is some unsurmountable task.

Annoying? Sure.

Tedious? You betcha.

Super difficult? Not really. Not anymore.

Relics were not an issue the RNG gatcha ended runs first, even with being able to see one room ahead didn't help a lot when the RNG is heavily biased against the player.

They need to pick one, either they have their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ honour system or they have their biased gatcha system .. having both is like the house getting to roll against the player twice with loaded dice.

Ive lost 1 run due to a rando mob bugging out and hitting me for more honor than I've seen a mob do before, didn't even see the sneaky bastard come at me from off screen.

Fine fine I can accept that loss, So I farmed another token and tried again and had horrible biased RNG end that run, I can carry some bad RNG but Trials are full of stupidly horrible affliction options .. options that no sane person would take . .like no ES shield for a build that runs high ES as its defence.

The issue is there are too many of them that can wipe your run or make it substantially harder .. even the top players find this Trial system to be utter garbage.

I can make the final Trial so honor isn't an issue, I just cant carry that much horrible affliction RNG, Im not running a room clearing one shot build, I actually want the challenege but it needs to be fair.

Right now Tiral of suck my ass isn't fair, its not difficult from skill its difficult from ♥♥♥♥ RNG heavily biased towards bad afflictions and afflictions that don't make sense to even have.

its like they didn't really care about the afflictions and got their sadistic 7 year old to design them, none of them show any thought about how they affect the player and interact with other afflictions.

Id rather do multiple runs of Temple of Chaos instead.
Last edited by TrashPanda; Dec 30, 2024 @ 4:19pm
1angelreloaded Dec 30, 2024 @ 6:34pm 
Originally posted by gachi is manly:
3rd ascendancy isn't even that bad anymore since they gave melee 35% less honor loss. You load up on relics that have % honor resistance and it's pretty easy.

Not that I think it's a good system. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if it changed. I just wish people would stop acting like the 3rd ascendancy is some unsurmountable task.

Annoying? Sure.

Tedious? You betcha.

Super difficult? Not really. Not anymore.

Its still bad and its a bad core concept, playing ranged I have went through the 3rd ascendancy and have lost honor due to more dumb crap than anything, Its not a skill issue and that is the crux of everyone's problem, it should be earned by skill not having RNG on top of RNG elements roadblock your progress. The Honor resistance is also dumb, you have life and ES there is a reason that is the test, not dying, its cheesy AF and poor game design meant to roadblock players for no reason which in turn will have everyone playing the flavor of the month broken builds that 3 sec the bosses. I notice people complaining are the ones who are actually playing the game as intended, the people not complaining are the copy cut paste builds that are going to get nerfed because they bypass working as intended gameplay.
People wouldn't mind the Honor system IF and I mean IF afflictions were taken out, you have RNG to get the token, then RNG to get the right relics, RNG for the gear to survive, Then you have RNG for the dumb afflictions on top of that. Its the crap you see in Gotcha Games. Trials should be different than Ultimatum, and no one likes that crap it has bad rewards for the time put into it and the chosen stacking afflictions can make it complete garbage to waste your time with.

The point is for some classes it is unsurmountable of a task, the test basically purposely screws certain builds and mechanics they need to actually deal damage. Role an infernalist and pop Demon Form, see how that goes for you at 3 stacks.
1angelreloaded Dec 30, 2024 @ 6:46pm 
Originally posted by DirtyMick:
Prove yourself! Only then may you ascend.

I mean yeah I would like to, but its RNG rather than skill, You prove yourself through skill, a Thorns build is immediately useless and Infernalist Demon Form? do I need to spell out how badly thought out both the trials are? and the lack of forthought into builds of the classes. Labs were pretty straight forward don't die and kill the boss.

Also I think this was a real bad idea in the first place to lock ascendancies behind a trial to begin with, there is nothing really good about denying the character build behind a gate especially since it makes a build usable or not usable, the whole idea should be to show you have skill with your class and not lose out to bad RNG. IT just feels bad and makes players feel cheated rather than they actually accomplished something. Its the difference between people quitting entirely thinking the game is stupid rather than an actual challenge.
Also screw those spiraling fire traps.
MILFPOUNDER Dec 30, 2024 @ 6:56pm 
I think it's fine, i beat it my second try, no meta op youtube build, just the gear and stats i think are cool. I think i eat the 3rd trial at level 75. I i totally get that its too hard for a few players though. im sure the devs will put in an easy league or something for those who need the content to be easier in order to enjoy.
Drake Dec 30, 2024 @ 7:10pm 
The campaign trials are not that hard. I've done them with stupid builds (a fire crossbow witch and a physical quarterstaff melee sorceress).
You don't need OP builds at all to do them, you just need to actually have utility skills, like stuff that stuns, freeze, pin or blind etc.

Most of the issues with builds is that they have zero layers of defence. Passive stats aren't enough to protect you, you need to think a build to actually survive.
JiggleBill Dec 30, 2024 @ 7:13pm 
All 4 are easy. Your build needs work. I was falling asleep running lvl 80 ultimatums.
DarK Dec 31, 2024 @ 5:01am 
If they don't remove the trials before release the game will be dead soon after launch.
mss73055 Dec 31, 2024 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by JiggleBill:
All 4 are easy. Your build needs work. I was falling asleep running lvl 80 ultimatums.

cool, what Chinese played for you and how much did it cost?
moody Dec 31, 2024 @ 5:28am 
Your right. Everything is opposite of what Ross said. He did fail. I should always have enough Exalts to Craft to my hearts content.
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