Mana Leech Passive Nodes Question

[Sparky862]

They increase your Mana Leeched by 10%

Does my gear have to have the Mana Leech Stat for this passive to work, or does it give me a 10% Mana Leech even without the stats on my gear?

[=][=Alduran=][=]

You need a base leech source for the increase to work.
0 + 10% = 0
"X% of damage leeched as..." is a leech source that can be increased.

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by ==Alduran==:

You need a base leech source for the increase to work.
0 + 10% = 0
"X% of damage leeched as..." is a leech source that can be increased.

Okay thank you

[Sparky862]

Originally posted by ==Alduran==:

You need a base leech source for the increase to work.
0 + 10% = 0
"X% of damage leeched as..." is a leech source that can be increased.

So Gaining % Mana per Enemy killed is not counting as a Leech source.

It has to have the Damage Leeched As stat?

[=][=Alduran=][=]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

Originally posted by ==Alduran==:

You need a base leech source for the increase to work.
0 + 10% = 0
"X% of damage leeched as..." is a leech source that can be increased.

So Gaining % Mana per Enemy killed is not counting as a Leech source.

It has to have the Damage Leeched As stat?

As far as I know if fixed amount or % of Mana is "gained" when killing or hitting enemies it's not "leeched" or "regenerated". Gained is the keyword here.
Yeah it has to have the "leeched" keyword for it to be leech.

[Sparky862]

And Forking? How does Forking work?

If the Passive tree tells me 15% Chance to Fork ... does that mean any projectile that does not pierce has a chance to Fork?

Or does only certain skills Fork?

Reason for asking is I have a Ruby that is in my Ruby Slot that gives me 15% Chance to Fork, but I never saw my Gas Arrows Fork ever.

[serotoninpack]

Originally posted by Sparky862:

And Forking? How does Forking work?

If the Passive tree tells me 15% Chance to Fork ... does that mean any projectile that does not pierce has a chance to Fork?

Or does only certain skills Fork?

Reason for asking is I have a Ruby that is in my Ruby Slot that gives me 15% Chance to Fork, but I never saw my Gas Arrows Fork ever.

Like POE 1, the game does a wonderful job explaining its mechanics. All you need to do is search on the internet.

[ministrog]

you gotta be careful here, since support gems only affect the skill gem it's attached to. but if you have other sources that say all projectiles have a chance, then yeah you should see them

[serotoninpack]

% from base, key word being base. Except the help/roll over tip does not mention the word base, or what the base is.

[Darkrayne]

Should also be mentioned that Mana Leech only works with Physical Damage. Nothing else. If skills convert all Physical to something else then they can't Mana Leech.

[serotoninpack]

Originally posted by Darkrayne:

Should also be mentioned that Mana Leech only works with Physical Damage. Nothing else. If skills convert all Physical to something else then they can't Mana Leech.

Good to know. Does the game explain that or it is an information that needs to be found outside of the game?

[Darkrayne]

Originally posted by serotoninpack:

Originally posted by Darkrayne:

Should also be mentioned that Mana Leech only works with Physical Damage. Nothing else. If skills convert all Physical to something else then they can't Mana Leech.

Good to know. Does the game explain that or it is an information that needs to be found outside of the game?

It does say Physical specifically on each skill's stat screen when you have some base value and the skill is doing some Physical Damage.

[serotoninpack]

Originally posted by Darkrayne:

Originally posted by serotoninpack:

Good to know. Does the game explain that or it is an information that needs to be found outside of the game?

It does say Physical specifically on each skill's stat screen when you have some base value and the skill is doing some Physical Damage.

Oh okay, that seems pretty clear.

[Darkrayne]

Originally posted by serotoninpack:

Originally posted by Darkrayne:

It does say Physical specifically on each skill's stat screen when you have some base value and the skill is doing some Physical Damage.

Oh okay, that seems pretty clear.

Also, base Mana Leech comes from either gear or the Soul Thief Support Gem. There is no 'base' mana leech available in the passive skill tree. Might be more sources for it somewhere or more might be added later but those are the only ones I know of at the moment.

(first stage of Early Access, if anyone finds this topic later it might have changed)

[HunApo]

Originally posted by Darkrayne:

Should also be mentioned that Mana Leech only works with Physical Damage. Nothing else. If skills convert all Physical to something else then they can't Mana Leech.

Not only that, but leech mechanic as it is now is completely useless.
Monsters gain leech resistance the higher level they are, meaning you get basically absolutely nothing from leech.

I've tested it with my bow autoattack, that does several thousand phys damage and with 15% leech i was gaining like 10hp per sec leech total, so yea, dont waste point on passive tree for those nor on equipment, as those are basically dead stats currently.

Since it is very unlikely to get a patch in the next 2 weeks, you are better off without those

[Darkrayne]

Originally posted by HunApo:

Originally posted by Darkrayne:

Should also be mentioned that Mana Leech only works with Physical Damage. Nothing else. If skills convert all Physical to something else then they can't Mana Leech.

Not only that, but leech mechanic as it is now is completely useless.
Monsters gain leech resistance the higher level they are, meaning you get basically absolutely nothing from leech.

I've tested it with my bow autoattack, that does several thousand phys damage and with 15% leech i was gaining like 10hp per sec leech total, so yea, dont waste point on passive tree for those nor on equipment, as those are basically dead stats currently.

Since it is very unlikely to get a patch in the next 2 weeks, you are better off without those

I'm actually working on a new Acolyte of Chayula at the moment with the main focus being on leeching mana to restore energy shield... with the 1hp Chaos immunity keystone. Not at endgame with him yet but with the current state of leech resistance I don't think it's going to go well lol. I'm doing it for science.