Account banned?

[Xyrek]

Bought the game downloaded it, immediately met with your account has been banned??

[Xyrek]

Publicado originalmente por Eri71:

well someone did not run poe with a limited user account.

I have no idea what that is

[Leonchroí]

Publicado originalmente por ARCiTECHZ:

Publicado originalmente por Leonchroí:

That's a lie, they don't specifically state the software used as you claim, just like this post here https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3584808

During my email from someone who worked they after I mentioned awakened Poe trade they said they do not allow it. Why would I lie on this issue? What do I stand to gain from it in the slightest?? Use your brain

If anyone should have used there brain here it's you, don't cheat and you'll never have to worry about a ban

[Xyrek]

Publicado originalmente por Leonchroí:

Publicado originalmente por ARCiTECHZ:

During my email from someone who worked they after I mentioned awakened Poe trade they said they do not allow it. Why would I lie on this issue? What do I stand to gain from it in the slightest?? Use your brain

If anyone should have used there brain here it's you, don't cheat and you'll never have to worry about a ban

Do you use awakened Poe trade?

[MrSoul]

Publicado originalmente por Dark Exile:

You didn't get banned for awakened PoE, that was around for a long time, i used it for a long time. You got banned for other reasons

No tools created by the community have ever received official approval by ggg. Awakened falls in a grey area, so use at own risk.

[OPX Sanji]

Publicado originalmente por ARCiTECHZ:

Publicado originalmente por Chris:

A GGG post from a few months ago.
"I would recommend refraining from creating or using any programs that automates or does more than one action with a keystroke or mouse click as well as anything that interacts with the game client to provide an advantage over other players or provide information that isn't normally visible."

awakened poe doesnt conflict with anything here. it doesnt even intereact with the client to be detectable. all it does is copy the text of the item under the curser.. something you would do yourself by literally pressing crtl-c, then ctrl-v into notepad, then putting those stats into the trade site to lookup similar items.

you most likely got banned for a macro you were spamming.

Mate.. it wasn't no macro nothing. Believe what you want to but that's the truth. Why would i be lying 3 years after the fact. Id rather people just be aware

Publicado originalmente por ARCiTECHZ:

Publicado originalmente por King Hadu:

Your best course of action would be to give this game a negative review and then request a refund from steam.

Simply claim you were scammed since this is exactly what happened since you did nothing wrong and were instantly banned the minute you launched the game.

There is nothing stating a ban in POE 1 would carry over to POE 2 so you are legally within your rights to get a refund.

yeah i got refunded, playing would be nice though

AN ACCOUNT BAN is an account ban dude, Same POE account so it carries over, he didn't get scammed, He did it to himself, its not what he thinks that did the ban to begin with, as many of us have used the same program and with no issues, IT DOES NOT automate or do multiple actions that actually effect the gameplay.

[SillySausage]

skill issue

[DirtyMick]

Publicado originalmente por King Hadu:

Macros are legal and is supported by Logitech and every company out here, it is illegal to ban someone for macros.

OP should file a complaint with the EU, Tencent can be charged for breaching consumer rights.

Damn, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. Companies should definitely be able to ban you from games for using macros. There are games that macros provide a very unfair advantage in.

[Dark Exile]

Publicado originalmente por DirtyMick:

Publicado originalmente por King Hadu:

Macros are legal and is supported by Logitech and every company out here, it is illegal to ban someone for macros.

OP should file a complaint with the EU, Tencent can be charged for breaching consumer rights.

Damn, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. Companies should definitely be able to ban you from games for using macros. There are games that macros provide a very unfair advantage in.

Except macro's are also covered in the ToS as a ban, but again, no one reads that so they wouldn't know and thereby are not legal

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Publicado originalmente por OPX Sanji:

Publicado originalmente por ARCiTECHZ:

Mate.. it wasn't no macro nothing. Believe what you want to but that's the truth. Why would i be lying 3 years after the fact. Id rather people just be aware

Publicado originalmente por ARCiTECHZ:

yeah i got refunded, playing would be nice though

AN ACCOUNT BAN is an account ban dude, Same POE account so it carries over, he didn't get scammed, He did it to himself, its not what he thinks that did the ban to begin with, as many of us have used the same program and with no issues, IT DOES NOT automate or do multiple actions that actually effect the gameplay.

Any 3rd party tools that are not officially approved by the game itself, are against the ToS and can result in a ban if the game has any connection to the internet, and even if the game has no connection to the internet in some cases, which applies for pretty much every single game in existence. Just because you or someone else doesn't get punished for something doesn't mean, that it's somehow right or safe to do. There's a reason as to why it's said, that even if a tool or mod isn't intrusive, you are still using it "at your own risk", with that on it's own being discouraged.
If somebody shot someone and got away with it, you wouldn't go out of your way to shoot someone as well, just because they didn't get punished.

When it comes to accounts, it depends. If the game is separate, a ban in one shouldn't bar you from the other, or at least it shouldn't ban you from a game that wasn't even available for several years since then.
If the OP used their steam account to log into the game, as that's the default on steam, their steam user id got banned in PoE1, and the same ban list of IDs just carried over to PoE2, it's honestly a mistake on GGG's part, explained below.

The fact is the following:
- OP used a 3rd party tool in PoE1, which broke their ToS/EULA, so they were legally allowed to revoke access of OP to the game, PoE1.
- Several years went by.
- OP purchased a second installment in the franchise, PoE2, thinking that he'd be able to use the product that he purchased. By purchasing, installing and starting the game, he had to agree to the ToS and EULA of PoE2, NOT PoE1.
- OP had his access to the product revoked before even installing it, despite being able to purchase, download and start it. That on it's own isn't legal, as it'd mean that GGG intentionally sold a product to the OP with the intention of not actually providing it.

There is a reason as to why games, like those that use VAC, have separate single-player/offline/vs. AI modes. You get banned from multiplayer in one, access to VAC or multiplayer outright is revoked in all VAC-related games, however you can still play those games solo/against AI/offline.
Or if it's a launcher, the entire account gets banned or wiped, resulting in... you guessed it, you not being able to purchase the product, and if you do, it will have to be for a new account. Which is not what happened here.

[bladeddragonknight]

To summarize the wall of text above me...don't use mods in an online game.

[torsk]

Awakened PoE trade or it's successor Exile Exchange 2 for PoE 2 is 100% allowed and does not break ToS.

I and all my friends have used it for years with no problems, it does not do anything in the game that you yourself can't do with 1 action. Only thing it does is ctrl - c and paste into trade site and do things like write /hideout in chat

OP is either lying or dumb / got hacked.

[Townhero]

100% not banned for using Awakened PoE. I use it every day in both games. thousands of hours of using it. Fact.

[MightyMonte88]

Publicado originalmente por Luritutus:

imo, a good thing when u get banned in game 2 automatically because you got a perma ban in game 1. No second change. Deserved. Not in case of a perma ban for game 1. Receivin perma ban needs bit more effort

That doesn't fly when it's two totally different titles, and one isn't free.

This is by a longshot, over steeping bounds. I support GGG in most things they do, but this is just corporate stupidity.

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Publicado originalmente por bladeddragonknight:

To summarize the wall of text above me...don't use mods in an online game.

And that what happened to OP with PoE2 was not legal on GGG's part.

Publicado originalmente por torsk:

Awakened PoE trade or it's successor Exile Exchange 2 for PoE 2 is 100% allowed and does not break ToS.

I and all my friends have used it for years with no problems, it does not do anything in the game that you yourself can't do with 1 action. Only thing it does is ctrl - c and paste into trade site and do things like write /hideout in chat

OP is either lying or dumb / got hacked.

Just because you can do something with "one action" in the game doesn't mean, that it doesn't fall under a 3rd party tool or macro, both of which are not allowed by the ToS/EULA. Automating a process, on it's own falls under a bannable modification to the gameplay.

The difference between the official PoE trade site and you using a macro to do it is the fact, that the former is official and allowed, meanwhile the latter isn't.

"We have done this but didn't get punished, so if you do it, you shouldn't get punished either" is a dumb thing to say.

[Desync]

Oh man, you really got the kids going with this one LOL. So many think they know what they are talking about, yet nobody is saying anything but garbage.

U poors talk like this publicly? Damn, no wonder your life is so bad.