Not in love with the endgame

[Space Cowboy]

Just entered the endgame and I'm not impressed with it. Clearing maps is as mediocre as it gets.
And since dying ruins your run, now I have to play super conservative cause 90% of the time I can just left click everything to death with ARC without any kind of effort until I stumble upon that ONE rare which could potentially one shoot me to death which means that I have to pay 100% attention for no real payoff. And limiting town portals makes even less sense to me - I need those to carry home my loot! If I can't even do that properly than why should I even bother at all?
Generally I don't see anything which could motivate me to put some proper time and effort into it.
I was so bored that I started watching a terrible anime about a catgirl on netflix on the side (wouldn't recommend that either).
I guess it's good that it already has an endgame at all in EA but I feel that this has to change drastically to become any kind of fun.

[Straker]

Yeah they need to fix the 1 shotted by an offscreen ability which kills your run. At least give 3 attempts then game over. Otherwise there is little motivation to keep mapping higher!

[Space Cowboy]

Oh, and having debuffs on your waystone is just a terrible idea - I appreciate that my reflexes get challenged but I also want my carefully constructed build to get challenged as well. So, first I get debuffs which ruin my build, then I can't even adapt to the challenge if I fail for the first time cause my waystone was used up for good. This really invalidates half the game and turns all the amazing gameplay from the campaign on its head basically for nothing in return.

[Space Cowboy]

Originally posted by Straker:

Yeah they need to fix the 1 shotted by an offscreen ability which kills your run. At least give 3 attempts then game over. Otherwise there is little motivation to keep mapping higher!

Even then, it's just so boring right now!

[Rorschach]

Yep, entered endgame yesterday. Played one map three times and guess what, got one shotted three times. That's not fun, that's (again) unfair and frustrating. But my problem here is that i have absolutely no motivation to play this, no reason except to see higher character levels. I think i'll start a new char, but playing this endgame as it is right now - no, thanks.

[Herbspiceguy]

If you're running into a wall in endgame, buy gear from the trade website. You can probably get an insane survivability and dps boost with some gear pieces for 1 exalt each.
This is also the time where you're going to have to max your resistances and have a decent amount of life and/or energy shield depending on class.

You need to upgrade waypoints for them to drop waypoints, so you don't run out. More mods, means higher chance of waypoint drops.

[Noop]

Originally posted by Rorschach:

Yep, entered endgame yesterday. Played one map three times and guess what, got one shotted three times. That's not fun, that's (again) unfair and frustrating. But my problem here is that i have absolutely no motivation to play this, no reason except to see higher character levels. I think i'll start a new char, but playing this endgame as it is right now - no, thanks.

Dude if you get oneshot on T1 maps then your build is just incredibly trash. Being oneshot randomly is an issue in HIGH TIER MAPS not in low tier maps.

The issue of this thread sits in front of the PC. I agree that the endgame needs work and has many issues but getting oneshot in low tier maps is not one of them.

I assume you guys come from diablo. This game is not like diablo. Cap your resistances. If your gear does not have max hp + res on almost every single gear piece you are doing smth wrong.

[Wutever]

How cooked are your defenses when a random rare can one-shot you? Energy shield is god mode right now. What's your ES? What are your resists?

Originally posted by Rorschach:

Yep, entered endgame yesterday. Played one map three times and guess what, got one shotted three times. That's not fun, that's (again) unfair and frustrating. But my problem here is that i have absolutely no motivation to play this, no reason except to see higher character levels. I think i'll start a new char, but playing this endgame as it is right now - no, thanks.

If you get oneshotted on a white level 1 waystone that is because your build is terribad, not because the endgame sucks. Fix your resists, get more defenses and get some defensive spirit skills.

[Taita]

This exact thing bothering me aswell. I made a mistake talking about it in the game chat so here are a few tips which may help you according to PoE fans.

- you tried to be better at game?
- just don't die
- it is like this since PoE1, why changing working formula
- don't be noob

I mean, why would they made the exact same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as it was in PoE1? This is PoE2 so make it I can die as much as many portals are open (or make a skill for that in skilltree).
Why are they making te exact same boring "crafting". Slapping orbs for random outcome is just wisdom scroll with extra steps on rares. Why not try something inovative? And the best is all those addicted PoE1 players with 5k gameplay are defending this.

I still have this feeling if Last Epoch would be merged together with PoE and the best from both world would be taken, it would be a really cool game.

[Space Cowboy]

Originally posted by Herbspiceguy:

If you're running into a wall in endgame, buy gear from the trade website. You can probably get an insane survivability and dps boost with some gear pieces for 1 exalt each.
This is also the time where you're going to have to max your resistances and have a decent amount of life and/or energy shield depending on class.

You need to upgrade waypoints for them to drop waypoints, so you don't run out. More mods, means higher chance of waypoint drops.

I'm not running into a wall exactly - already finished 3 maps. It's just such a stark contrast cause I'm killing 95% of the map without even trying but the other 5% can kill me within the span of 2 seconds if I'm not careful. So, I have to put 100% effort into 5% game.

[Space Cowboy]

Originally posted by Noop:

Originally posted by Rorschach:

Yep, entered endgame yesterday. Played one map three times and guess what, got one shotted three times. That's not fun, that's (again) unfair and frustrating. But my problem here is that i have absolutely no motivation to play this, no reason except to see higher character levels. I think i'll start a new char, but playing this endgame as it is right now - no, thanks.

Dude if you get oneshot on T1 maps then your build is just incredibly trash. Being oneshot randomly is an issue in HIGH TIER MAPS not in low tier maps.

The issue of this thread sits in front of the PC. I agree that the endgame needs work and has many issues but getting oneshot in low tier maps is not one of them.

I assume you guys come from diablo. This game is not like diablo. Cap your resistances. If your gear does not have max hp + res on almost every single gear piece you are doing smth wrong.

Here's the issue, during the 95% of being able to kill everything just by walking through the level and holding down the button, I loose focus, cause it is just incredibly boring and monotonous. Then I might react just a second too late when an actual thread comes up and that's when I die. And that's just tedious. Even if I wouldn't get killed that easily by certain mobs or monsters I still wouldn't like it, cause it's just SO boring. It's just not worth the attention I have to put into it.

[Orb]

well try higher tier maps until it gets difficult and see if you like it. I am at tier 9 at the moment.

[Pim]

most gold enemies just look normal so you play normally then get 1 tapped, apart from that yeah man its boring just the same maps with nothing to do over and over with extremely slow levelling, i mean its Christmas and ive been playing all day just for 1 level and thats with 2 xp tower tablets, nah ill play when they fix end game and make it more fun

[Space Cowboy]

Originally posted by Pim:

most gold enemies just look normal so you play normally then get 1 tapped, apart from that yeah man its boring just the same maps with nothing to do over and over with extremely slow levelling, i mean its Christmas and ive been playing all day just for 1 level and thats with 2 xp tower tablets, nah ill play when they fix end game and make it more fun

Yeah, that's 100% how I feel about it.

[Dessembrae]

The endgame isn't good for the moment no. It was rushed, and will likely be changed dramatically over time.
Act 1 is the most finished part of the game; you can expect GGG to want this feel for all the acts (including the three we haven't seen yet) as well as the endgame.
If you come back in six months, the maps will probably feel a lot more satisfying and rewarding (pretty much everything about endgame is bad right now), not to mention that you will have some new awesome classes to play through the game with.

[Space Cowboy]

Originally posted by Dessembrae:

The endgame isn't good for the moment no. It was rushed, and will likely be changed dramatically over time.
Act 1 is the most finished part of the game; you can expect GGG to want this feel for all the acts (including the three we haven't seen yet) as well as the endgame.
If you come back in six months, the maps will probably feel a lot more satisfying and rewarding (pretty much everything about endgame is bad right now), not to mention that you will have some new awesome classes to play through the game with.

Yeah, endgame feels like a placeholder right now and I definitely hope it is.