D4 vs. POE 2 (my opinion)

[seektravota]

D4 is better as in:

1. Graphics are simply aesthetically far more superior.

2. UI is better. Text are easy to read. Health and skills are easier to use.

3. More character customization. You can customize your race, gender, body type and face. A huge W. But POE 2's character is locked.

4. D4 has better FPS. The game is more smooth. POE 2 need more optimization. Same rig that gives me 75+ FPS on 5k monitor is only giving me 35-40 FPS.



POE 2 is better as in:

1. Skill system. But at this point, (But it's only because D4 has really bad skill system with no meaningful diversity). For POE 2, the skill system is very similar to Torchlight Infinite which I prefer because Torchlight Infinite's system is much easier to navigate.

2. Endgame maps.


P.S.

Group META play, D3 >>> every other ARPG game.

[moonfeast]

TBH, i'm having more fun in Torchlight Infinite..

[Crim]

POE : better boss fights
D4: Damn near everything else.

D4 is mostly hated because of blizzard and the current season being lackluster.
Season 4 and Season 2 were god tier. And season 0 (which is the most reasonable comparison to poe 2 currently) Felt much better than this.

[Gnasty Gnorc]

Originally posted by seektravota:

D4 is better as in:

1. Graphics are simply aesthetically far more superior.

2. UI is better. Text are easy to read. Health and skills are easier to use.

3. More character customization. You can customize your race, gender, body type and face. A huge W. But POE 2's character is locked.

4. D4 has better FPS. The game is more smooth. POE 2 need more optimization. Same rig that gives me 75+ FPS on 5k monitor is only giving me 35-40 FPS.



POE 2 is better as in:

1. Skill system. But at this point, (But it's only because D4 has really bad skill system with no meaningful diversity). For POE 2, the skill system is very similar to Torchlight Infinite which I prefer because Torchlight Infinite's system is much easier to navigate.

2. Endgame maps.


P.S.

Group META play, D3 >>> every other ARPG game.

1 - wrong

2 - this one is probably true

3 - this game isnt about making your own character. you're playing a specific character who has their own story. this is not a legitimate point.

4 - This one is also a dumb point, D4 has been out for a while now, of course it's better optimized.

[RawMeatDiet]

Is combat as engaging in D4 as in POE2? If not, then I can't even play D4, I will be bored.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hK3o8YbnOw

[Edgelord]

Originally posted by RawMeatDiet:

Is combat as engaging in D4 as in POE2? If not, then I can't even play D4, I will be bored.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hK3o8YbnOw

>buff one button
>press one button
>everything is dead

Yeah, very engaging. Bone prison Necromancer level of engagement.
PoE 2 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. It have everything wrong with the game just like D4 did. Bad skill balance, no build variety, boring and repetitive endgame, no loot, random one shots, boring combat. And still poe 2 is praised and D4 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I guess most of the players still didn't hit poe 2 endgame.

[Izunyami]

Originally posted by Pure Havik:

Originally posted by seektravota:

D4 is better as in:

1. Graphics are simply aesthetically far more superior.

2. UI is better. Text are easy to read. Health and skills are easier to use.

3. More character customization. You can customize your race, gender, body type and face. A huge W. But POE 2's character is locked.

4. D4 has better FPS. The game is more smooth. POE 2 need more optimization. Same rig that gives me 75+ FPS on 5k monitor is only giving me 35-40 FPS.



POE 2 is better as in:

1. Skill system. But at this point, (But it's only because D4 has really bad skill system with no meaningful diversity). For POE 2, the skill system is very similar to Torchlight Infinite which I prefer because Torchlight Infinite's system is much easier to navigate.

2. Endgame maps.


P.S.

Group META play, D3 >>> every other ARPG game.

1 - wrong

2 - this one is probably true

3 - this game isnt about making your own character. you're playing a specific character who has their own story. this is not a legitimate point.

4 - This one is also a dumb point, D4 has been out for a while now, of course it's better optimized.

Their own story?
Brother. The player characters in PoE2 and PoE2 have backstories but they have no legitimate stories in game. Just flavored quips based on your class/backstory.

None of that prevents you from looking different. Literally no reason why you can't have different hair or whatever. I remember people bashing Diablo 4 for gender locking and ♥♥♥♥ too. While D4 class characters also have the same backstory lore situation.

D4 was better optimized at launch than PoE2 is. PoE2 is in "beta" though so it still isn't a fair comparison. But it is disgusting how much worse some areas in poe2 are than others

[Chimp Strength™]

POE2 skillpassive system is not FUN at all. I'm losing interest and I have 130 hrs in the game. Why does no one mention Last Epoch? Is it not a good ARPG?

[Izunyami]

Originally posted by Edgelord:

Originally posted by RawMeatDiet:

Is combat as engaging in D4 as in POE2? If not, then I can't even play D4, I will be bored.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hK3o8YbnOw

>buff one button
>press one button
>everything is dead

Yeah, very engaging. Bone prison Necromancer level of engagement.
PoE 2 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. It have everything wrong with the game just like D4 did. Bad skill balance, no build variety, boring and repetitive endgame, no loot, random one shots, boring combat. And still poe 2 is praised and D4 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I guess most of the players still didn't hit poe 2 endgame.

The literal only reasons why PoE2 is praised and D4 is criticized is because blizzard = bad and content creators, "influencers", make tons of money farming anti-blizzard content and framing GGG as the anti-blizzard company.
The majority of gaming opinions, now-a-days, has nothing to do with the actual game but with group-think and the desire to be part of the in-crowd.

[Izunyami]

Originally posted by Chimp Strength™:

POE2 skillpassive system is not FUN at all. I'm losing interest and I have 130 hrs in the game. Why does no one mention Last Epoch? Is it not a good ARPG?

Last Epoch is a good game. It's not talked about because not enough creators have raised it up so the poe sheep won't engage with it long term.

[Haziza]

The biggest problems for me with PoE 2 is the class fantasies are bad, endgame builds are a clusterf*ck, with spells and stuff everywhere to the point where it just looks ridiculous.

[RawMeatDiet]

Originally posted by Edgelord:

Originally posted by RawMeatDiet:

Is combat as engaging in D4 as in POE2? If not, then I can't even play D4, I will be bored.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hK3o8YbnOw

>buff one button
>press one button
>everything is dead

Yeah, very engaging. Bone prison Necromancer level of engagement.
PoE 2 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥. It have everything wrong with the game just like D4 did. Bad skill balance, no build variety, boring and repetitive endgame, no loot, random one shots, boring combat. And still poe 2 is praised and D4 is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I guess most of the players still didn't hit poe 2 endgame.

Everything is calculated. What you are not seeing is that if I misplay this I lose my character there, as it's HC and they could delete me in 1 sec.

[Hotthaco]

endgame !!! thahahaa

[Sagranda]

Originally posted by Izunyami:

Originally posted by Chimp Strength™:

POE2 skillpassive system is not FUN at all. I'm losing interest and I have 130 hrs in the game. Why does no one mention Last Epoch? Is it not a good ARPG?

Last Epoch is a good game. It's not talked about because not enough creators have raised it up so the poe sheep won't engage with it long term.

It also suffers from a small team and therefor a low update cascade. There are no builds and mobalytics as well, which adds to the lower visibility,
Which is kind of sad, since parts of the game are imho some of the best in the genre.
It's fun to make builds or respec into others.
The crafting is great.
Circle of Fortune vs. Merchants Guild (basically SSF vs. Action House) gives different and satisfying playstyle experiences for both. Personally I really enjoyed the loot explosions from CoF.
The bosses are ok from what I remember (haven't played in a while).
Overall visibility is/was imho better than in PoE or Diablo.
The idea of shortcuts through the campaign instead of just skipping it is interesting and definitely better than being forced to completely replay it every time.

Of course there are downsides as well (one-shots still happen, you still have to go through long parts of the campaign, on death effects, etc.), but overall I would probably put it in the top3 or 4 for me.

[Gingilica]

Looking at these kind of posts, i can understand why D2 will still be the topARPG in 2045.

[Ghostlight]

Last Epoch blows both of them away in every department.

I didn't like D4 much. One thing has to be said though, D4 utterly blows PoE2 away as far as actual combat goes. It is silky smooth and flows very nicely. PoE2 combat is surprisingly clunky. Was not expecting that.