P2W starts to hit

[Willard]

Seems like we hit a wall pretty fast. AH prizes are already insane with multiple platforms where u can buy in-game currency.

It was fun for first 2 weeks, normal players could actually buy good items from AH, now its just over.

I don´t blame GGG, its us players who always destroy a game for their profit.

[GirthQQuakes]

Originally posted by asd:

you no need to use trade at all...

Said the RMT seller.

Trade is part of the game.

[Panthaz89]

Originally posted by donut32:

Originally posted by RodHull:

Absolute rubbish, your entire point can be ignored from the false statement alone.

hes 100% correct. quite clear you arent past level 30 yet.

any solid endgame upgrade you are seeking is 1 of 2 options:

pay 100 divines for it on the trade site (no one has 100 divines laying around, so RMT)
gamble 2000 exalted lever pulls and hope you hit the god roll. hell, hope you hit at least 4 stats.

build making items like dream frags and ingenuity are each starting at 80 divs for the worst rolls on them. LOL

you know what is absolute rubbish? poe2/10

you realize there is a SSF leaderboard proving how dumb you ard OP's points are right?

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Originally posted by Willard:

Seems like we hit a wall pretty fast. AH prizes are already insane with multiple platforms where u can buy in-game currency.

It was fun for first 2 weeks, normal players could actually buy good items from AH, now its just over.

I don´t blame GGG, its us players who always destroy a game for their profit.

Your post makes no sense.

The things you talk about are against the rules and chances are they will get the seller and purchaser banned.

There also is no pay2win since - what is even winning in an ARPG you play for fun and not against others?


Actually what you describe is pay2loose since if you just buy the best items you simply take away your own motivation to even play the game. I mean the point of the game is to gear up and find cool things.
But i guess some ppl also consider reading the last few pages of a book or reading a summary as some sort of speed-hack to reading.

[Stockwerk 13]

trade league is 110% pay2win and RMT shtfiesta

100 exalts are 5 dollar right now

why would you ever grind the game if working a minimum wage job at mc donalds is like 10x more effective

there is only one solution:

play SSF, it is the real game.

[Burba]

As soon as you start buying gear with real money the game is over. Why would you do that to your self. Its like cheating in a civ game. It just ruins the whole thing and it stops being fun.

[asd]

Maybe for the fun of it? I play in Trade League too, but I only use the market for buying and selling items—not for real money. Spending $10 to buy gear just makes the game way too easy. A friend of mine tried it once, and he got bored of that season almost immediately.

I honestly don’t understand players who:

1)Spend real money to buy currency.
2)Copy-paste META builds.
3)Buy all their items from the market.
Where’s the fun in that?

[MrSoul]

Originally posted by Hanti:

ah yes, optional trade = p2w

Forest, meet trees, hope you didn’t miss each other.

[MrSoul]

Originally posted by asd:

Originally posted by Stockwerk 13:

trade league is 110% pay2win and RMT shtfiesta

100 exalts are 5 dollar right now

why would you ever grind the game if working a minimum wage job at mc donalds is like 10x more effective

there is only one solution:

play SSF, it is the real game.

Maybe to have fun? i play in trade league and only using market for selling and buying stuff but not for real money. It make game too EZ if you top up 10 dollars and buy gear. Friend of mine did it once and instantly got bored in that season.

Yet large amounts of people do it for every season of PoE and many other games. One anecdotal story doesn’t dismiss the issue my friend.

[asd]

Originally posted by MrSoul:

Originally posted by asd:

Maybe to have fun? i play in trade league and only using market for selling and buying stuff but not for real money. It make game too EZ if you top up 10 dollars and buy gear. Friend of mine did it once and instantly got bored in that season.

Yet large amounts of people do it for every season of PoE and many other games. One anecdotal story doesn’t dismiss the issue my friend.

I don’t see an issue with it—it’s completely optional. If that’s how someone wants to play, they can go ahead. However, from my point of view, it takes all the fun out of the game.

[Dailao]

Originally posted by Willard:

AH prizes

What AH ?
I wish it had an AH, I really do.

I refuse to use an archaic trade mode of whispering, meeting in-game and trading by hand.
The last time I did this was in Everquest 1, an eternity ago.

[侍Kage]

it's not the RMT, it's magic find modifier. People running 300-400% magic find on their gear + map bonuses, currency rains like in a stormy day. Literally people stacking magic find right now and farming, that's why prices go insanely high. Everyone have 200+ divs on their currency tab and mirror of kalandra.

You guys are so out of touch thinking it's rmt lmao. Magic find ruined the whole game.

[Ivara Ara]

Originally posted by Hanti:

ah yes, optional trade = p2w

Trading is far from optional though, i really feel for the self found people with how bad the drops are in this game

[Vespertellino]

what p2w

[Zogtar]

All live service games are skinner boxes.

There's never been an exception.

[asd]

Originally posted by Dailao:

Originally posted by Willard:

AH prizes

What AH ?
I wish it had an AH, I really do.

I refuse to use an archaic trade mode of whispering, meeting in-game and trading by hand.
The last time I did this was in Everquest 1, an eternity ago.

I used to dislike the lack of a native Auction House in PoE, but honestly, it’s fine as it is. With one click in the browser, you can automatically whisper the seller, and then you just visit their hideout to complete the trade.

I’d rather see the developers focus on other improvements than adding AH functionality to the game. Even if they implemented it, you'd probably still need to visit a town or specific location to access the AH, so it wouldn’t necessarily save any time. The only real difference would be having a GUI inside the game instead of using the browser.