PoE2 Community is F Tier

[Riukensei]

All I see from these people in game and in discussion here and on main website are the same things.

"You suck, Quit the game loser, Stop crying loser, The game isn't hard, I like 1 shot mechanics, Learn to roll losers" Etc Etc.

The only other community I know personally like this is LoL. LoL is now just a place for trolls and people who have chat turned off and give up when someone goes 0/2.

How do you guys expect the game to grow and get more players, keeping it alive for you, when you act like this? Is that the point here? to make PoE2 fail? It is so confusing.

[Deyvson]

Challenge brings more players and the game being too easy.

[coffinwood]

Originally posted by Riukensei:

"You suck, Quit the game loser, Stop crying loser, The game isn't hard, I like 1 shot mechanics, Learn to roll losers" Etc Etc.

These are mostly answers to OPs who claim the game is bad because they die too often or can't play POE2 like an idle clicker.

So many players walk into the (wrong) forum to complain about game mechanics they don't understand and/or show off their entitlement.

[JohnMiller92]

Originally posted by JohnMiller92:

Originally posted by Riukensei:

if you want a clown just ask, I have 76 million points.

I'll take one please. Also how the hell did you get 76 million!?

OP delivered. ty for the jester <3

[Riukensei]

Originally posted by Xersin:

Originally posted by Riukensei:

How do you guys expect the game to grow and get more players, keeping it alive for you, when you act like this? Is that the point here? to make PoE2 fail? It is so confusing.

We don't expect it to get new tourists. In fact, we don't want them here. PoE2 will fail by catering to the people who cry about every minor inconvenience, and PoE1 proved perfectly well that ignoring them is the way to make your game massively popular. You don't cater to players who are just going to baby rage and quit at every slight. You cater to your core demographic, especially in a F2P market. Those are the people who will stick around, and spend over and over again, as opposed to a tourist who will probably not even spend once.

So your logic doesn't follow thru here. Simply because YOU aren't the core graphic, you are the outlier. You have major MCS. MOST ARPG players want choices, not META Only. The fact the game is alrdy declining and its not even out yet showcases exactly that. The CORE isn't asking for the game to be COMPLETELY dumbed down, they want it to be simpler so they don't have to play Hard Mode and play ONLY one way. They want to enjoy their time spent, not smash their head against the wall, and then be bullied by the online playerbase that thinks they are the main character.

You ruined your own point and the fact you don't realize that makes this funnier.

[Riukensei]

Originally posted by coffinwood:

Originally posted by Riukensei:

"You suck, Quit the game loser, Stop crying loser, The game isn't hard, I like 1 shot mechanics, Learn to roll losers" Etc Etc.

These are mostly answers to OPs who claim the game is bad because they die too often or can't play POE2 like an idle clicker.

So many players walk into the (wrong) forum to complain about game mechanics they don't understand and/or show off their entitlement.

Yea that's not what I am talking about or seeing en mass. The game doesn't need to be EASY overall, or even nerfed, it needs a casual slider for players who suck. Which is 90% of gamers. Every metric to view player skill goes in a bell curve. Most players are below 60% Skill base. The median is is not you or me. We are the top 10%. You have to have a casual mode in ARPGs and a hard core mode in ARPGs. That is how they survive.

It is crazy we are rediscovering fire here.

[NUKINGFOOBS]

Originally posted by JohnMiller92:

Originally posted by Riukensei:

I legit just watch chat target someone complaining, I went to whisper them, they are offline.

Now here you are typing the same type of crap.

This game is stupid easy for me, but why would I bully someone who is having a hard time on a video game? Now that person may not come back. So thats what you want in this game? 1 way to play, if other dont play that 1 way, boot em? F tier.

the arpg playerbase one of the worst in the gaming industry. has been since d2 blood moor pvp days, lol. i don't think it's ever going away

FACTS
been popped in the blood moor as a new to the game noob by toxic fux in the way back. the players have changed but the attitude remains the same. its a cringe daemon

[RedTrustfactor]

PoE players don't like large crowds so they make sure their game appeals to the smallest crowd.

[Riukensei]

Originally posted by RedTrustfactor:

PoE players don't like large crowds so they make sure their game appeals to the smallest crowd.

I just don't understand why they can't just have the hardest difficulty and HC mode and be happy, why alienate the majority of players? I get not liking the DEI crap going on and the E for Everyone crap where you pander to the wrong crowd. But why can't we meet in the middle and have a slider for these people complaining about difficulty.

I personally dislike 1 shot mechanics. Simply because it just adds a pointless mechanic for me to press space bar when they do an animation. It's not hard for me, its boring. The people who find it hard are quitting, and its less money for PoE2 which is less content for me. This effects us massively.

[Burma Jones]

PoE2 is a pretty zero skill game. Once you figure out a decent build/gear setup, you can mostly wipe screens with a button or two for the most part. Besides the dodge mechanic and skill gem system change it's hardly different than the first game sadly. The PoE community therefore is very delusional and insecure, they know deep down they're playing a game that's 100% a knowledge/gear check, it is not skill based at all. So any criticism of the game whatsoever seems like a personal attack to them, because their self image is dependent on pretending they're playing some perfect super skilled game and they're special for not having much else going on in their life. You're hurting their self image, not merely offering criticism to a game you paid for and would like to see changed.

That's what you're up against with any feedback, global chat, the forums, etc. And GGG makes money off these people who cling to the game, that's where most money comes from. So good luck on that front too.

[Shade30Seven]

Originally posted by Riukensei:

Originally posted by RedTrustfactor:

PoE players don't like large crowds so they make sure their game appeals to the smallest crowd.

I just don't understand why they can't just have the hardest difficulty and HC mode and be happy, why alienate the majority of players? I get not liking the DEI crap going on and the E for Everyone crap where you pander to the wrong crowd. But why can't we meet in the middle and have a slider for these people complaining about difficulty.

I personally dislike 1 shot mechanics. Simply because it just adds a pointless mechanic for me to press space bar when they do an animation. It's not hard for me, its boring. The people who find it hard are quitting, and its less money for PoE2 which is less content for me. This effects us massively.

LOL nobody really quitting, They just saying they are!

[Riukensei]

Originally posted by Shade30Seven:

Originally posted by Riukensei:

I just don't understand why they can't just have the hardest difficulty and HC mode and be happy, why alienate the majority of players? I get not liking the DEI crap going on and the E for Everyone crap where you pander to the wrong crowd. But why can't we meet in the middle and have a slider for these people complaining about difficulty.

I personally dislike 1 shot mechanics. Simply because it just adds a pointless mechanic for me to press space bar when they do an animation. It's not hard for me, its boring. The people who find it hard are quitting, and its less money for PoE2 which is less content for me. This effects us massively.

LOL nobody really quitting, They just saying they are!

Well Steam numbers don't lie, and I personally know 2 people who have. They are waiting for an update that fixes what they want fixed or they aren't coming back.

So sure there are people doing that, numbers are still good for now, but the idea its not happening and not going to be a problem is like telling me I am a god when we both know I am not.

we had a decline, they updated stuff, people came back, very quick. Now its declining again. It won't DIE like Concord. It will DIE like D3. Only try hards and sweats and cheaters will be left. They will sell stuff at high prices and abuse its mindless player base that thinks its playing something good because they have the KNOWLEDGE to play an easy game, that other players are having a hard time grasping and quitting.

Your life has already been lived here.

[Shade30Seven]

Originally posted by Burma Jones:

PoE2 is a pretty zero skill game. Once you figure out a decent build/gear setup, you can mostly wipe screens with a button or two for the most part. Besides the dodge mechanic and skill gem system change it's hardly different than the first game sadly. The PoE community therefore is very delusional and insecure, they know deep down they're playing a game that's 100% a knowledge/gear check, it is not skill based at all. So any criticism of the game whatsoever seems like a personal attack to them, because their self image is dependent on pretending they're playing some perfect super skilled game and they're special for not having much else going on in their life. You're hurting their self image, not merely offering criticism to a game you paid for and would like to see changed.

That's what you're up against with any feedback, global chat, the forums, etc. And GGG makes money off these people who cling to the game, that's where most money comes from. So good luck on that front too.

OP you wanna talk about F-Tier community!

[Izunyami]

Originally posted by JohnMiller92:

Originally posted by Riukensei:

Yea I found myself going back to Cyberpunk 2077 on PC (I have it on PSN as well) and I am enjoying it so much more. Single Player games are really taking my time and attention more, even playing solo on multiplayer games, like PoE2 and MMOs. I know there are a lot of good people out there, but I see why they don't chat and just play solo or find a guild.

good ol days of playing morrowind all by yourself and being fully immersed and then talking to your gaming buddy about what ya'll experienced.

nowadays, that same experience is alt-tabbing to your fav streamer copying their build and then realize they went to a new game, so now you're like oh ok uninstalling "fkk that game". lol gamers are being robbed... all based around instant gratification and "dopamine hits"

They don't even get their dopamine fix from the damn game. They get it from pretending to be in the in-crowd with their parasocial idol of choice.

[Izunyami]

Originally posted by b-dub94:

Its impressive how utterly toxic the community for an entirely PvE focused game can be. LoL is insanely toxic, but it is solely a PvP game so it is unfortunately expected.

This community is down bad with how rude people are towards people who are frustrated that they were sold an "excellent entry for casuals into ARPGs and POE" and then what they actually end up with is:

1. Demoralizing bosses
2. Abysmal loot
3. Insane grind to actually get the lvls/drops to beat said bosses
4. UnIntuitive crafting
5. Unintuitive gear stats
6. External trading
7. 2500 passives but only 122 passive points
8. Illusion of builds (Gotta look on up. Casuals experimenting get absolutely dumpstered by the game and community)

I mean this game really is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rug pull

It's weird because this game is a dumbification of PoE1, which signals it should be friendlier to casuals, yet the bosses are full of mechanics that are not casual friendly. The bosses in PoE1 and PoE2 should be swapped. PoE1 bosses are too damn easy and simple.

The illusion of builds goes even further. Even if you're a veteran and know how to do a good build, the utter restriction of the classes, equipment, and small range of skills -> there's only a handful of viable builds, period. I see no way to do interesting and weird builds in PoE2. It's like GGG went out of their way to PREVENT player's from even dreaming up weird builds.

You'll play your class how GGG demands it and you're going to like it!

[RedTrustfactor]

Originally posted by Zaeld:

If you think the community is bad now then just wait until this game goes free to play.

I've seen it, full aware of how bad poe1 players were.