Market prices

[FlagelloITA]

How the hell I missed 3-4 days and the market prices skyrocketed like this, now everything cost 1+ divine no middle ground at all...

[FlagelloITA]

Originally posted by ⓀⒾⓦⒾ‰:

farm your own gear instead of trying to buy it and you wont get exploited

In this game where rng on drops and items it's everything, a functional market it's necessary unless you want to spend hundred of hours rolling a dice on crafting or hoping for drops, or even to get decent items getting destroyed in bad rng crafting... Without a working market trade most of the ppl will never experience the full game

[mudcrab]

Originally posted by FlagelloITA:

Originally posted by ⓀⒾⓦⒾ‰:

farm your own gear instead of trying to buy it and you wont get exploited

In this game where rng on drops and items it's everything, a functional market it's necessary unless you want to spend hundred of hours rolling a dice on crafting or hoping for drops, or even to get decent items getting destroyed in bad rng crafting... Without a working market trade most of the ppl will never experience the full game

well said.

[Wyrtt]

Nothing stops YOU from selling items for a resonable price. Supply and demand. If no one buys for this price than it would be that high

[Wild]

Rare find % modifier is completely overpowered in this game and it's working for currency, creating inflation on exalted and even divine orbs, you can farm a lot of these at tier 15+ maps and that's probably where you will find a lot of bots. Most of GGG staff is on holiday vacation too so they probably can't keep up with banning bots.

[Gnasty Gnorc]

Originally posted by mudcrab:

Originally posted by JohnMiller92:

WoW can't even fix their bot issue. what makes you think GGG can my man LOL

defending rmt and botting is a very strange position to take.

It's not defending it. IT's stating a fact. In any online game, there will ALWAYS be bots/RMT/cheaters.

It's literally impossible to not have them.

[mudcrab]

Originally posted by Pure Havik:

Originally posted by mudcrab:

defending rmt and botting is a very strange position to take.

It's not defending it. IT's stating a fact. In any online game, there will ALWAYS be bots/RMT/cheaters.

It's literally impossible to not have them.

entirely depends on how much resource GGG is willing to allocate to the matter.

[FlagelloITA]

Originally posted by Wyrtt:

Nothing stops YOU from selling items for a resonable price. Supply and demand. If no one buys for this price than it would be that high

The issue is that when I find an item at a fair price it's insta bought by some bot probably, like tonight I really spent 2h lookin for a unique I need and whenever it pop on the market at a price I can afford, "someone else bought it" even if I Dm the seller many many times with the item being up from seconds, I feel that was kinda weird that I was never ever the first... Many popular items I guess could be aimed by bots when Goin on sale for cheap, to be able to sell it again for the "fixed price"...
Goin on like this the problem will only go worse cause the market it's going nuts with the prices... Without divine orbs atm you literally can't buy anything good to start mapping and even if I'm still good to go with my campaign items I'll be stuck soon unless I'll have some incredible lucky drop to allow me make some divine...

[mudcrab]

Originally posted by FlagelloITA:

Originally posted by Wyrtt:

Nothing stops YOU from selling items for a resonable price. Supply and demand. If no one buys for this price than it would be that high

The issue is that when I find an item at a fair price it's insta bought by some bot probably, like tonight I really spent 2h lookin for a unique I need and whenever it pop on the market at a price I can afford, "someone else bought it" even if I Dm the seller many many times with the item being up from seconds, I feel that was kinda weird that I was never ever the first... Many popular items I guess could be aimed by bots when Goin on sale for cheap, to be able to sell it again for the "fixed price"...
Goin on like this the problem will only go worse cause the market it's going nuts with the prices... Without divine orbs atm you literally can't buy anything good to start mapping and even if I'm still good to go with my campaign items I'll be stuck soon unless I'll have some incredible lucky drop to allow me make some divine...

your are correct about bots purchasing items from legit postings.
in order to price fix they need to control as much of the outlying as possible.
aggressive purchasing bots are used to achieve this.
end goal is funneling players toward using rmt.

[SK]

How many bots are actually out there though?

In PoE1 bots are usually unascended Witches, because they struggle to complete the ascension trials and can AFK with minions. At least for grinding purposes.
For trading, they typically get to act 2 to have the standard hideout.

In PoE2, they can't get a hideout until endgame, so where do bots even trade from? Just in-town?

PoE is interesting because it doesn't have an auction-house so bots can't auto-snipe trades. They need to whisper a player, and that player has to agree to trade them.

In PoE1, most bots are currency flippers, making money off arbitrage on exchange rates between currencies. And the currency exchange system kind of invalidated that, and they can't easily engage with it due to the gold costs.

[Sandal Bandit]

Originally posted by ⓀⒾⓦⒾ‰:

farm your own gear instead of trying to buy it and you wont get exploited

100% this

[DaddyBearSharp]

sort filter by ex is your friend.

[Wild]

Originally posted by BadToast:

How many bots are actually out there though?

In PoE1 bots are usually unascended Witches, because they struggle to complete the ascension trials and can AFK with minions. At least for grinding purposes.
For trading, they typically get to act 2 to have the standard hideout.

In PoE2, they can't get a hideout until endgame, so where do bots even trade from? Just in-town?

PoE is interesting because it doesn't have an auction-house so bots can't auto-snipe trades. They need to whisper a player, and that player has to agree to trade them.

In PoE1, most bots are currency flippers, making money off arbitrage on exchange rates between currencies. And the currency exchange system kind of invalidated that, and they can't easily engage with it due to the gold costs.

Probably too many or I just happen to find too many players with level 70+ characters with no hideouts for some reason. Now I don't have any proof so that I could start mass reporting them, but it's too suspicious.

[Scullhead]

Originally posted by FlagelloITA:

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Goin on like this the problem will only go worse cause the market it's going nuts with the prices... Without divine orbs atm you literally can't buy anything good to start mapping and even if I'm still good to go with my campaign items I'll be stuck soon unless I'll have some incredible lucky drop to allow me make some divine...

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

You can cap out all 3 Resistance with 3 Items, each for 1 Exalt. Ánd a half-good weapon for another 1 Ex. More than enough for start the Atlas.
I investet 10 Ex and play´n atm at T6 Maps without more Upgrades.

[FlagelloITA]

Originally posted by Scullhead:

Originally posted by FlagelloITA:

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Goin on like this the problem will only go worse cause the market it's going nuts with the prices... Without divine orbs atm you literally can't buy anything good to start mapping and even if I'm still good to go with my campaign items I'll be stuck soon unless I'll have some incredible lucky drop to allow me make some divine...

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

You can cap out all 3 Resistance with 3 Items, each for 1 Exalt. Ánd a half-good weapon for another 1 Ex. More than enough for start the Atlas.
I investet 10 Ex and play´n atm at T6 Maps without more Upgrades.

My res are capped from act 2 normal mode, I know how to play, I know that I can push more with my actual items but still... The market it's doomed

[Clyan]

i just sold a blue amulett for 6 exalts lol