Does GGG hate casuals?

[Alek]

I really have the feeling thats kinda true.

Normal Campaign is waaaaaaaaaay harder than cruel.
Some classes are nearly impossible to start with, like warrior.
And if a casual really beat the campain he faces the true nightmare, the Endgame.
Every little mistake is punished absolutly brutal. Map lost, Loot on the ground lost, exp lost and lot of time wasted....

Shouldnt POE2 suppose to be more casual friendly because POE1 was to confusing for them? It feels like it got even worse for casuals

Am i wrong about it?

[KevlarMarshmallow]

tried to start poe like a dozen times across PC, Xbox, and PS4/5. Just too much to learn, felt like work. I loved playing D2, never felt like I had to research and copy builds from the internet to play D2. I prefer to make my own and play as I go. Is it peak 1%? No. But I don't care. But seems like picking as you go wil leave you in bottom %. Is this what gaming is now? Was hoping start poe2 fresh with less convoluted layers would be fun.

[MightyMonte88]

引用自 KevlarMarshmallow：

tried to start poe like a dozen times across PC, Xbox, and PS4/5. Just too much to learn, felt like work. I loved playing D2, never felt like I had to research and copy builds from the internet to play D2. I prefer to make my own and play as I go. Is it peak 1%? No. But I don't care. But seems like picking as you go wil leave you in bottom %. Is this what gaming is now? Was hoping start poe2 fresh with less convoluted layers would be fun.

Its not all that more than D4 man, if you give it a SOLID chance you won't be dissapointed.

I remember having the same feeling about some of the classics back in the day (late 90s) , which ended up being some of my favorite games lol.

[Drosta]

引用自 KevlarMarshmallow：

tried to start poe like a dozen times across PC, Xbox, and PS4/5. Just too much to learn, felt like work. I loved playing D2, never felt like I had to research and copy builds from the internet to play D2. I prefer to make my own and play as I go. Is it peak 1%? No. But I don't care. But seems like picking as you go wil leave you in bottom %. Is this what gaming is now? Was hoping start poe2 fresh with less convoluted layers would be fun.

For a good chunk of D2s life you could absolutely brick your character. People forget that. And I'm not sure you are being honest with yourself about how difficult it was to progress through hell, nevermind completing Uber Tristram or world version Diablo without googling a build to do it, ie smiter. Most people, have a rosy view of D2 being alot easier because of how watered down it got over the years and how much they actually relied on Baal bots and what have you to actually get to a point where they felt somewhat end game capable.

[RodHull]

引用自 Drosta：

引用自 KevlarMarshmallow：

tried to start poe like a dozen times across PC, Xbox, and PS4/5. Just too much to learn, felt like work. I loved playing D2, never felt like I had to research and copy builds from the internet to play D2. I prefer to make my own and play as I go. Is it peak 1%? No. But I don't care. But seems like picking as you go wil leave you in bottom %. Is this what gaming is now? Was hoping start poe2 fresh with less convoluted layers would be fun.

For a good chunk of D2s life you could absolutely brick your character. People forget that. And I'm not sure you are being honest with yourself about how difficult it was to progress through hell, nevermind completing Uber Tristram or world version Diablo without googling a build to do it, ie smiter. Most people, have a rosy view of D2 being alot easier because of how watered down it got over the years and how much they actually relied on Baal bots and what have you to actually get to a point where they felt somewhat end game capable.

This... D2 vanilla and later D2 with LOD in its first incarnation was brutally hard. Rare mobs were no joke and could absolutely be more powerful than some bosses.

[Empukris]

引用自 Admiral Mayhem：

maps = Need Meta build from the web. no enjoyment to try my own builds without losing all maps and progress. even the devs say that they wish for some diversity on what players plays but how is that possible when my build is a waste of time.. I don't want to be a Minion fire skull build and just look at minions do all the work its boring .. its boring.. want to fly around as a demon and take down maps but it is so unbalanced with 100% or more speed on mobs 200% vision (mobs see you first out of the screen) and million stun stats on them. and Where is the Map drop ??? I had over 350% bonus on map drop and I got lvl 1 map ... ONE !!! sick of the Meta build gameplay. Rant rant!!

It is just literally impossible at the moment. Map is not well balanced. For you to even farm comfortably lets say in tier10 maps, you need great gear, those gear that people sell by 1 divine at least by now. Poe 2 has worse crafting system than 1, even the transmute you cant really randomised it before you regal it moving forward to yellow. So all you can do just endlessly grind this map looking for better resistance and health that after reaching lvl 80, I never found a single rare that is even remotely decent.

The different between good rares and bad rares is not measly 100 shield. It can be different like 800 frikking shield. The end game is nothing but pay to win at the moment. Thats why those gold seller is really thriving. Moving to launch they must fixed this loot table and crafting. At the moment it is just terrible. The end game is nothing more than a playground for people with big guild (more resources) or times. There is no skill in the equation completely different from the campaign.

[Alek]

引用自 Empukris：

引用自 Admiral Mayhem：

maps = Need Meta build from the web. no enjoyment to try my own builds without losing all maps and progress. even the devs say that they wish for some diversity on what players plays but how is that possible when my build is a waste of time.. I don't want to be a Minion fire skull build and just look at minions do all the work its boring .. its boring.. want to fly around as a demon and take down maps but it is so unbalanced with 100% or more speed on mobs 200% vision (mobs see you first out of the screen) and million stun stats on them. and Where is the Map drop ??? I had over 350% bonus on map drop and I got lvl 1 map ... ONE !!! sick of the Meta build gameplay. Rant rant!!

It is just literally impossible at the moment. Map is not well balanced. For you to even farm comfortably lets say in tier10 maps, you need great gear, those gear that people sell by 1 divine at least by now. Poe 2 has worse crafting system than 1, even the transmute you cant really randomised it before you regal it moving forward to yellow. So all you can do just endlessly grind this map looking for better resistance and health that after reaching lvl 80, I never found a single rare that is even remotely decent.

The different between good rares and bad rares is not measly 100 shield. It can be different like 800 frikking shield. The end game is nothing but pay to win at the moment. Thats why those gold seller is really thriving. Moving to launch they must fixed this loot table and crafting. At the moment it is just terrible. The end game is nothing more than a playground for people with big guild (more resources) or times. There is no skill in the equation completely different from the campaign.

This Problem would be easy solved when they remove ALL punishment systems in Endgame. At the Moment you Just gain waaaay to less and May lose way to much for it...
But they rather fix classes where Players found a good build.....and No ITS Not the crappy Warrior in early Game lol

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引用自 Alek：

Shouldnt POE2 suppose to be more casual friendly because POE1 was to confusing for them? It feels like it got even worse for casuals

Am i wrong about it?

Yes, you are completely wrong about it.