Path of Exile 2

Path of Exile 2

Fast 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:09
Why the economy and market is screwed!
What is happening is hyper inflation and price fixing./

And this is happening because ....you guessed it ...money.

Ill explain how it works so people understand.

1. Bot farms gain hundreds of thousands of exalteds and in turn divine orbs.
2. They then craft hundreds of thousands of items. And trade list the strongest ones at prices that exceed the average players budget. i.e. price fixing
3. This drives up prices furthers as normal players follow suite which creates hyper inflation in a market normal players cant afford.
4. this is important because now youre average player is priced out of the market.
5. where do some of those players turn....to real money trading.
6. It will only get worse as time goes on and i dont claim to know a solution , this is just how it works.
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Fast 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:32 
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clearly you dont understand stat weighting and how often does water drop, if im in the desert thats pretty rare, if im on the coast its pretty common?
Ok. If you say I dont, it must be so.... Because the 4 main currencies... Transmutes, augs, regal and exalts are really VERY easy to get.

3 exalts per craft on average and having no way to search specific stats outside of essences of which greaters barely exist. you simply dont know what you are talking about.
Fast 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:33 
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well clearly you dont, take a screenshot of your greater essence tab for me and youll prove me right .
Lol what a weird flex you're trying....

What? take a screenshot of you greater essence tab, itll be empty, and ill be right. Its not a flex. Its you are entirely , completely wrong, and dont even realise it.
NaRf 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:34 
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Ok. If you say I dont, it must be so.... Because the 4 main currencies... Transmutes, augs, regal and exalts are really VERY easy to get.

3 exalts per craft on average and having no way to search specific stats outside of essences of which greaters barely exist. you simply dont know what you are talking about.
Ofc I dont, by your reckoning....
Fast 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:35 
its better to do T16 maps on irratiated/corrupted, save your currency drops and buy what you need, there is not a single reason to throw currency away trying to get multiple 1% weighted stats, when some bot farm made hundreds already you can just buy if you save. But alas. They will be price fixed above the average player value always, so those people will never be able to afford anything.
NaRf 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:35 
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Lol what a weird flex you're trying....

What? take a screenshot of you greater essence tab, itll be empty, and ill be right. Its not a flex. Its you are entirely , completely wrong, and dont even realise it.
You want me to prove something that is abit weird.... As I stated the 4 main crafting currencies drop like water...... Or are you telling me regals/exatls dropped this is in PoE?
Fast 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:40 
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What? take a screenshot of you greater essence tab, itll be empty, and ill be right. Its not a flex. Its you are entirely , completely wrong, and dont even realise it.
You want me to prove something that is abit weird.... As I stated the 4 main crafting currencies drop like water...... Or are you telling me regals/exatls dropped this is in PoE?

Unless you luck out on that 0.01% perfect rolls, you will need divines, annulment etc to get a complete set of good rolls. Thats why some of the best weapons are costing 100-600 divines right now. i bet ytou have less than 10. keep telling yourself youll keep up. as divines go up by around 10-15 exalts per day on the exchange.
NaRf 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:42 
Divines tend to fall into the high end crafting aspect.... As I stated those 4 other currencies, not sure why you bring up divines at all.
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Dentin 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:43 
investors are panicking leading up to trump tariffs, caused all sorts of chaos, just wait till they close out weeks end tho, $5 all calm down.
NaRf 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:43 
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investors are panicking leading up to trump tariffs, caused all sorts of chaos, just wait till they close out weeks end tho, $5 all calm down.
Lol.
Fast 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:44 
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Divines tend to fall into the high end crating aspect.... As I stated those 4 other currencies, not sure why you bring up divines at all.

im out, you literally did not read. you do not understand, you dont know how crafting works and you dont understand why price fixing , bots and rmt has destroyed the market.

Personally it doesnt really affect me because i bought bis on the curve. but if the player base of casuals and lesser invested players is expected to stick around it needs a solution. this is my last response to you. you simply seem like you are not far enough.
NaRf 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:45 
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Divines tend to fall into the high end crating aspect.... As I stated those 4 other currencies, not sure why you bring up divines at all.

im out, you literally did not read. you do not understand, you dont know how crafting works and you dont understand why price fixing , bots and rmt has destroyed the market.

Personally it doesnt really affect me because i bought bis on the curve. but if the player base of casuals and lesser invested players is expected to stick around it needs a solution. this is my last response to you. you simply seem like you are not far enough.
Good, bye bye.
Random009 19. dec. 2024 kl. 19:52 
it's not even a free game, yet , and here's ppls claiming bot farms are ruining economy, in what 2 weeks of EA.

You ppls just love to hook onto something that ruffles you cuz you can't have it and yap yap yap about it.

Chill out and just enjoy the game.
Ferrsai 20. jan. kl. 16:00 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Fast:
What is happening is hyper inflation and price fixing./

And this is happening because ....you guessed it ...money.

Ill explain how it works so people understand.

1. Bot farms gain hundreds of thousands of exalteds and in turn divine orbs.
2. They then craft hundreds of thousands of items. And trade list the strongest ones at prices that exceed the average players budget. i.e. price fixing
3. This drives up prices furthers as normal players follow suite which creates hyper inflation in a market normal players cant afford.
4. this is important because now youre average player is priced out of the market.
5. where do some of those players turn....to real money trading.
6. It will only get worse as time goes on and i dont claim to know a solution , this is just how it works.

This is why these games were better before they become MMO-lites. Trading with thousands of other people sounds cool on paper, but it goes against everything these games are supposed to be, which is hack and slash, spell slinging, dungeon crawling and treasure "hunting" (not purchasing or trading). Diablo 2 had already went too far with its drop rates, it encouraged the community to create a market.

Some stuff should be rare that you don't see it in every playthrough, assuming minimal farming, maybe one in ten playthroughs. That should be about as rare as stuff gets, and only stuff like mirrors and the pinnacle of gear with high rolls with exactly what you want. The game should have a definitive end without some strung out filler nonsense like maps and seasonal minigames. People seem to like these seasonal minigames, and they are daft. They just take the loot you should be getting anyway and fold it in these minigames and make you jump through silly hoops that lose their luster after trying them three times.
Psycha 20. jan. kl. 16:16 
Just ban Empy and spicysushi and economy will go back to normal.
Q1 20. jan. kl. 16:24 
Behold this house of cards built upon an unstable foundation.

Behold that in a few months, it won't matter.
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