People have to pay to be beta testers ?

[Kehldael]

This is really weird to me... Why make the game free after launch ? I mean, people are obviously ready to pay.

This system is punishing paying customer, since they have an unfinished game, while others have a perfectly refined free game only 6 months after ?

Is there some kind of reward for paying players ?

I mean, right now, it looks like you fired your QA, and asked players to pay to become your new QAs... On a free to play game. I really don't understand the logic here.

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Originally posted by Kehldael:

This system is punishing paying customer, since they have an unfinished game, while others have a perfectly refined free game only 6 months after ?

you think it's gonna be "perfectly refined game" in 6 months? lmalo

[RawMeatDiet]

You pay for stash tabs, just like in POE1.

[Havok]

Im not exactly sure you understand what is happening.

If you pay $30 now, not only do you get to play now, you get $30 back in the form of currency to use in the shop. That $30 goes a long way for buying stash space, which is incredibly valuable as you progress. Every $ you spend on a supporter pack, you get back in terms of game currency. And that is because they know it will be free to play. So they arent just taking the money.

The game is fully functional, more polished than most "modern AAA games" even in its current state. Yes, it has some issues, yes, things need to be adjusted, but that is exactly what is happening here.

The game may be free when it launches, but the knowledge that people have right now will be huge. We will get to play every class they have in the game, 6 more are coming before launch, so by the time the game launches, we will already know the balance of classes and just be able to play what we like.

And to answer your point about being testers, go pay $120 for ashes of creation, where the devs literally address you as "glorious testers" when they release a patch, and you will see what it means to pay to be a tester.

[Pervy]

Originally posted by Kehldael:

This is really weird to me... Why make the game free after launch ? I mean, people are obviously ready to pay.

This system is punishing paying customer, since they have an unfinished game, while others have a perfectly refined free game only 6 months after ?

Is there some kind of reward for paying players ?

I mean, right now, it looks like you fired your QA, and asked players to pay to become your new QAs... On a free to play game. I really don't understand the logic here.

Poe1 didt he same thing back then. You also had to pay to beta test. Also been a paided beta tester is commen now a days.

However i like to note, that this game had closed beta tests befor EA.

[asd]

It is your choice to support developers, you are buying supporter pack..

[FunFettiYeti]

Used to do QA for a large gaming company, even with hundreds of people being hired and testing we couldn't really emulate thousands or in this case hundred's of thousands to do the stress test and feedback a game like this needs. The extra money is needed for engineers to see how the actual game is being played under this environment. Simply they are a business that runs on cash.

[Kehldael]

Originally posted by ak47:

Im not exactly sure you understand what is happening.

If you pay $30 now, not only do you get to play now, you get $30 back in the form of currency to use in the shop. That $30 goes a long way for buying stash space, which is incredibly valuable as you progress. Every $ you spend on a supporter pack, you get back in terms of game currency. And that is because they know it will be free to play. So they arent just taking the money.
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Ah that's what I did not understand, then it's perfectly fine :)

[Leht]

yes. and i do what i want with my money

[Millertyme]

It's not a beta. It's early access. I'm happy spending 30 bucks to play this game for a year. Helps me enjoy it without feeling overwhelmed all at once. I'll have a good understanding of what the game is doing and what I wanna do come full release and season content. I don't feel punished. I have 100+ hours already and it only cost me 30 bucks. If I went to watch a movie I would spend 40 just for myself and the movie will run about 2 hours.

[Kehldael]

Originally posted by Millertyme:

It's not a beta. It's early access. I'm happy spending 30 bucks to play this game for a year. Helps me enjoy it without feeling overwhelmed all at once. I'll have a good understanding of what the game is doing and what I wanna do come full release and season content. I don't feel punished. I have 100+ hours already and it only cost me 30 bucks. If I went to watch a movie I would spend 40 just for myself and the movie will run about 2 hours.

You don't understand my message, I wasn't understanding why they made the testers pay while the players afterward would have a free game.

Now I know they are giving it back in some cash shop currency afterwards, so I understand better, they are simply taking an advance on what players would have paid when the game launches :)

[Ezekiel Rage]

Yes and when they give feedback the Fanbois scream in their pillows and cry so many toxic tears on people giving feedback that they stop giving feedback.
And that#s how you kill a game.
Just look at The Forever Winter that game has 200 players now because you were not allowed by the Fanbois to give feedback to the devs.
It#s not Devs killing the industry it's toxic Fanbois.

[WOKEGOD]

You pay to have fun with broken build before swap to another as the former getting nerfed to the ground.
You pay to get excited about new contents in week times not in a quarter
You pay because you want to play
Beta tester? Is that how it looks from the point of view of those who couldn't afford $15?

[Dee]

Originally posted by Kehldael:

This is really weird to me... Why make the game free after launch ? I mean, people are obviously ready to pay.

This system is punishing paying customer, since they have an unfinished game, while others have a perfectly refined free game only 6 months after ?

Is there some kind of reward for paying players ?

I mean, right now, it looks like you fired your QA, and asked players to pay to become your new QAs... On a free to play game. I really don't understand the logic here.

you can't change people with false hate speech. Fans would pay 100 dollars if it is needed its TripleG and they are worth it

[simplysnaz]

today I learned what early acces means - pov.

[Havok]

Originally posted by Kehldael:

Originally posted by ak47:

Im not exactly sure you understand what is happening.

If you pay $30 now, not only do you get to play now, you get $30 back in the form of currency to use in the shop. That $30 goes a long way for buying stash space, which is incredibly valuable as you progress. Every $ you spend on a supporter pack, you get back in terms of game currency. And that is because they know it will be free to play. So they arent just taking the money.
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Ah that's what I did not understand, then it's perfectly fine :)

yup, i explained that to someone who was on the fence, and they said

"wait, so if I wait for the game to be free, sure I get the game for free, but youre saying I will likely need to buy $30-$40 worth of stash space to make my life easier. So why wouldn't I just pay now, get to play, understand the mechanics, and then never spend another dime."

So yea, you 100% get back the money you spend. literally. I have never heard of a f2p game doing something like that, so I was like, well, why not. And I literally held off spending my $30 worth of coins until like, just before endgame, and when I did I had this lightbulb go off of... ohhh I see now. Having $30 worth of stash space is huge. might be all you ever need. But they just give it to you. It is very much equivilant exchange.

And tbh, I hate.. HATE mtx in game, in any way shape or form. And even to me, once I saw the benefits of buying a few stash tabs, I didn't feel like my money was wasted, since sure, I paid for the game, even went as far as to upgrade my edition, and all the currency I got felt more than fair to me.