last time i checked +400k

[holdem]

Now already down to 200k
Was it over hyped?

[RodHull]

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Originally posted by Ben:

I read your comment, and it was pretty bad. It looks like you discovered early access yesterday and have 0 idea of how it works and how the actual numbers (still 400k after 2 weeks of early access) are actually impressive.

You didn't like the game for some reason, and it shows.

I am well aware of how early access works. It seems like it is you who do not. GGG is not some small indie company anymore, they don't need EA funding to develop their game, if that's the point you are making. Furthermore, like I said in a later comment that I made after you posted this one, is that most people who are interested in games like POE2 are already aware of POE2 and have most likely already bought EA. You think GGG will retain 100% of those players? Even 70%? I doubt it's even 60%. So to match those numbers, you need 40% NEW players to get the same numbers as EA. Good luck with that.

Every arpg made in the last 10 years has had more players at release than at any stage during its early access.

History and basic logic disagrees with you

[jungle ranger]

Originally posted by Ben:

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Already elaborated on this point in another comment.

You didn't like the game for some reason, and it shows.

I almost forgot this point. I don't dislike the game, just the players who insistently white knight any criticism about it. If you want the game to reach EA numbers at launch, they need to cater to more people than just these niche sweats who worship a game just because it's "their" game. Online gaming has become tribal.

[jungle ranger]

Originally posted by RodHull:

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

I am well aware of how early access works. It seems like it is you who do not. GGG is not some small indie company anymore, they don't need EA funding to develop their game, if that's the point you are making. Furthermore, like I said in a later comment that I made after you posted this one, is that most people who are interested in games like POE2 are already aware of POE2 and have most likely already bought EA. You think GGG will retain 100% of those players? Even 70%? I doubt it's even 60%. So to match those numbers, you need 40% NEW players to get the same numbers as EA. Good luck with that.

Every arpg made in the last 10 years has had more players at release than at any stage during its early access.

History and basic logic disagrees with you

List the games.

[Axetwin]

Every day has peaks and valleys. Check the number again in about 6-8 hours.

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Originally posted by parent child bowl:

The trend of people going to sleep?

If you look at steam charts it has a downward trend.

If you actually looked at the database, you will see 15th and 16th had a uptick of 50K to 60K then it went back to following normal ebb and flow.

Also, the time the OP posted their farce, the chart shows it was close to it's lowest non-peak time before ascending through the timezone traffic.

You really need to learn how to understand these charts. Your words fail you

[Ben]

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Originally posted by Ben:

I read your comment, and it was pretty bad. It looks like you discovered early access yesterday and have 0 idea of how it works and how the actual numbers (still 400k after 2 weeks of early access) are actually impressive.

You didn't like the game for some reason, and it shows.

I am well aware of how early access works. It seems like it is you who do not. GGG is not some small indie company anymore, they don't need EA funding to develop their game, if that's the point you are making. Furthermore, like I said in a later comment that I made after you posted this one, is that most people who are interested in games like POE2 are already aware of POE2 and have most likely already bought EA. You think GGG will retain 100% of those players? Even 70%? I doubt it's even 60%. So to match those numbers, you need 40% NEW players to get the same numbers as EA. Good luck with that.

FREE TO PLAY ?? ANYONE ??? lol
Is this discussion even real...

[RodHull]

Originally posted by Ben:

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

I am well aware of how early access works. It seems like it is you who do not. GGG is not some small indie company anymore, they don't need EA funding to develop their game, if that's the point you are making. Furthermore, like I said in a later comment that I made after you posted this one, is that most people who are interested in games like POE2 are already aware of POE2 and have most likely already bought EA. You think GGG will retain 100% of those players? Even 70%? I doubt it's even 60%. So to match those numbers, you need 40% NEW players to get the same numbers as EA. Good luck with that.

FREE TO PLAY ?? ANYONE ??? lol
Is this discussion even real...

Yes he actually thinks less people will play the completely free release that will have more than double the amount of content than are currently paying to play a half finished version.

[Ben]

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Originally posted by Ben:

You didn't like the game for some reason, and it shows.

I almost forgot this point. I don't dislike the game, just the players who insistently white knight any criticism about it. If you want the game to reach EA numbers at launch, they need to cater to more people than just these niche sweats who worship a game just because it's "their" game. Online gaming has become tribal.

How is this "white-knighting" when it's just pure logics ??
I don't care if the game is a major success, I won't get any money off of that.
But history kinda talks for itself especially for a FREE TO PLAY game.

[Ben]

Originally posted by RodHull:

Originally posted by Ben:

FREE TO PLAY ?? ANYONE ??? lol
Is this discussion even real...

Yes he actually thinks less people will play the completely free release that will have more than double the amount of content than are currently paying to play a half finished version.

Man, I just don't understand... xD

[RodHull]

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Originally posted by RodHull:

Every arpg made in the last 10 years has had more players at release than at any stage during its early access.

History and basic logic disagrees with you

List the games.

I just did all of them, Wolcen, Last Epoch, Diablo 4, Grim Dawn (actually falls outside of 10 years) I actually struggle to think of a single game, free to play or otherwise which didn't more than double its player base at release.

Now whether it retains that amount post release who knows, but its nonsense to suggest this is the full amount of people who will ever play it lol

[jungle ranger]

Originally posted by EvilHare:

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

If you look at steam charts it has a downward trend.

If you actually looked at the database, you will see 15th and 16th had a uptick of 50K to 60K then it went back to following normal ebb and flow.

Also, the time the OP posted their farce, the chart shows it was close to it's lowest non-peak time before ascending through the timezone traffic.

You really need to learn how to understand these charts. Your words fail you

That's why TRENDS don't look at individual spikes (e.g. days), but the TREND over time. You don't seem to understand what trends are.

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Originally posted by RodHull:

Every arpg made in the last 10 years has had more players at release than at any stage during its early access.

History and basic logic disagrees with you

List the games.

https://steamdb.info/app/899770/charts/#max
https://steamdb.info/app/527430/charts/#max
https://steamdb.info/app/1549250/charts/#max
https://steamdb.info/app/424370/charts/#max

https://steamdb.info/app/219990/charts/#max GD is an odd one but it shows it's release date bigger than most days.

You really fail at this

[jungle ranger]

Originally posted by Ben:

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

I am well aware of how early access works. It seems like it is you who do not. GGG is not some small indie company anymore, they don't need EA funding to develop their game, if that's the point you are making. Furthermore, like I said in a later comment that I made after you posted this one, is that most people who are interested in games like POE2 are already aware of POE2 and have most likely already bought EA. You think GGG will retain 100% of those players? Even 70%? I doubt it's even 60%. So to match those numbers, you need 40% NEW players to get the same numbers as EA. Good luck with that.

FREE TO PLAY ?? ANYONE ??? lol
Is this discussion even real...

CSGO actually LOST players for over a year when it became free to play pay to play, just look at the steam charts. So no, it's not some ridiculous notion. I've already explained the logic behind it.

[jungle ranger]

Originally posted by RodHull:

Originally posted by Ben:

FREE TO PLAY ?? ANYONE ??? lol
Is this discussion even real...

Yes he actually thinks less people will play the completely free release that will have more than double the amount of content than are currently paying to play a half finished version.

Again, look at CSGO. They lost players when it became free to play. Care to explain?

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Originally posted by EvilHare:

If you actually looked at the database, you will see 15th and 16th had a uptick of 50K to 60K then it went back to following normal ebb and flow.

Also, the time the OP posted their farce, the chart shows it was close to it's lowest non-peak time before ascending through the timezone traffic.

You really need to learn how to understand these charts. Your words fail you

That's why TRENDS don't look at individual spikes (e.g. days), but the TREND over time. You don't seem to understand what trends are.

You are laughable. The "trends" proves we are right and you are still wrong. At this point, you are meme worthy.