Hardcore is a joke?

[jungle ranger]

Why is this "Respawn at checkpoint" a thing? Defeats the whole purpose of hardcore. Just call it softcore + or something. Diablo 4 has those elixirs but they still don't let you just reset an entire boss fight.

So I guess D4 is more hardcore until POE fixes their game. Thought it was going to get good when they removed the logout macros but this is just the same thing under a new name.

[The Kraken]

So.... what's your suggestion for dying to a boss on hardcore? End the game? Start from the top of the map and grind your way back to the exact same boss? I'm super looking forward to your awesome hardcore (totally not softcore +) suggestion... ???

[jungle ranger]

Originally posted by The Kraken:

So.... what's your suggestion for dying to a boss on hardcore? End the game? Start from the top of the map and grind your way back to the exact same boss? I'm super looking forward to your awesome hardcore (totally not softcore +) suggestion... ???

Start a new character and go again? That's the entire point of hardcore? If you can't deal with that go softcore, that's literally why softcore exists.

[Overeagerdragon]

Wait... Hardcore in PoE2 doesn't lock your character upon death? Isn't that just Ruthless mode at that point ?

[jungle ranger]

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

Wait... Hardcore in PoE2 doesn't lock your character upon death? Isn't that just Ruthless mode at that point ?

It does, but during a boss fight you can press escape and that pauses the game, from there you can press another button that says "Respawn at checkpoint" and you get teleported safe and sound to the last checkpoint, saving you from the boss encounter.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Why is this "Respawn at checkpoint" a thing? Defeats the whole purpose of hardcore. Just call it softcore + or something. Diablo 4 has those elixirs but they still don't let you just reset an entire boss fight.

So I guess D4 is more hardcore until POE fixes their game. Thought it was going to get good when they removed the logout macros but this is just the same thing under a new name.

What's the difference? You could just relog anyway, it's an online game.
Exploits have always existed

Besides, most (all?) things that kill you do it in one shot anyway.

[Giggle/Sinbad]

Probably. Hardcore at the very start of EA is going to be rough regardless. Balance doesn't just appear refined out of no where and we are right at the start.
Hardcore will be great, but later.

[Ginebro]

Normally it would move your character to standard but since there's only standard no use in hardcore for now it seems

[Stockwerk 13]

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

Wait... Hardcore in PoE2 doesn't lock your character upon death? Isn't that just Ruthless mode at that point ?

It does, but during a boss fight you can press escape and that pauses the game, from there you can press another button that says "Respawn at checkpoint" and you get teleported safe and sound to the last checkpoint, saving you from the boss encounter.

lmfao

PoE 2 sucks so hard its beyond believe

[Dwane Dibbley]

Its beta, so i bet its temporal "buff" to actualy have some players in HC. With unbalanced things and patches/changes every few days, ppl would leave HC after randomly wiping...

[jungle ranger]

Originally posted by Evol:

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

It does, but during a boss fight you can press escape and that pauses the game, from there you can press another button that says "Respawn at checkpoint" and you get teleported safe and sound to the last checkpoint, saving you from the boss encounter.

Needs to be fixed I presume ? But really a player is only cheating them selves at that point.

Problem is that there are ladders in the game, so the people abusing this mechanic will always be at the top.

[Stockwerk 13]

Originally posted by VoiD:

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Why is this "Respawn at checkpoint" a thing? Defeats the whole purpose of hardcore. Just call it softcore + or something. Diablo 4 has those elixirs but they still don't let you just reset an entire boss fight.

So I guess D4 is more hardcore until POE fixes their game. Thought it was going to get good when they removed the logout macros but this is just the same thing under a new name.

What's the difference? You could just relog anyway, it's an online game.
Exploits have always existed

Besides, most (all?) things that kill you do it in one shot anyway.

dude can you add 1+1?

the problem is obvious:

you can just esc cancel the fight when ur about to loose it

thats not hardcore, that is pvssy kindergarden

hardcore should be: u kill the boss or ur dead.

[jungle ranger]

Originally posted by VoiD:

Originally posted by jungle ranger:

Why is this "Respawn at checkpoint" a thing? Defeats the whole purpose of hardcore. Just call it softcore + or something. Diablo 4 has those elixirs but they still don't let you just reset an entire boss fight.

So I guess D4 is more hardcore until POE fixes their game. Thought it was going to get good when they removed the logout macros but this is just the same thing under a new name.

What's the difference? You could just relog anyway, it's an online game.
Exploits have always existed

Besides, most (all?) things that kill you do it in one shot anyway.

That's what they changed with POE2, if you rel-ogged you would get back into the same encounter. But with this mechanic, you get OUT of the encounter so you can farm better gear or reset potions or whatever.

[Stockwerk 13]

Originally posted by VoiD:

Exploits have always existed

this is no "exploit"

this is simply pressing ESC

how this got through testing and quality assurance is completely beyond me


but looking at the rest of the game i dont wonder, they have not tested this sh1t just once.

[jungle ranger]

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Its beta, so i bet its temporal "buff" to actualy have some players in HC. With unbalanced things and patches/changes every few days, ppl would leave HC after randomly wiping...

Then why even have hardcore to begin with until the game has been "balanced"? It should either be hardcore or be renamed to softcore+.

[crzyfsh123]

POE 1 had a hardcore escape clause too.