The over tunned bosses will force people into meta builds

[Armando Broncas]

I'm on Jamanra and just tried the fight two times and this is just one shot galore.

No wonder they haven't touched the "streamer build" (minions) or it would make the game look even worse.

If this is your design phylosophy IM OUT, there are much better things to play, the market is saturated of better things to do than playing another ridiculous trash, prehistoric "Simon says dodge or you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ die" game, I am sick ans tired of it.

Your bosses are COMPLETELY UNFUN and will make people do meta builds to get past them and honestly a lot of people like me are just not even going to bother and quit the game.

Going to block all the fanatics that come to attack.

[<#C77>ex_IllusionisT]

d3Sync a écrit :

ApexKano a écrit :

It's not a race to Act 3. Take your time, re-farm stages you beat. Play around with your skill gems, and try again.

This, I believe, is the crux of the issue.

And I'm speaking from experience. I'm not far into the game, but I've already encountered this pacing problem.

Not enough quests/rewards for leveling up. Perhaps one overtuned boss.
- King Of The Mists in Feythorn

Asking the player base to grind out already completed areas in the introductory act of your game is not smart IMO. I'm a few levels higher since I tried KOTM and the Act 1 boss.. I'm about to try again. But I will say that it has not been a particularly fun experience.

I'm all for challenge. But being forced to mindlessly grind areas in the first Act will drive some people away. Later in the game, this I can understand. But not in the first 20 hours.

This is not an issue. It's literally ARPG. PoE1 was like this. LE is like this. Every ARPG when you hit a wall, you need to re-farm past zones and get better gear.

I'm taking down bosses under 10 seconds, while having pretty good resistances. For my level, I'm doing great. And it's really hard to not get carried away and die, then get transferred to Standard league.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3383922665

Level alone won't bring you up to par with the wall you've hit. It's gear that's the most important part.

[Armis Hart]

Witch is one of the hardest classes to play. "streamers" or youtubers are hit or miss. I would look around and do your research. This boss has a lot of mechanics. It makes it easier when you learn them. I'm playing sorceress so I'm squishy too. It took me quite a few tries to get past Jamara. It's hard but not impossible.

For the double or triple lightning spear throw it is a bit delayed then you dodge.
Avoid the lightning wire. I think it stuns/weakens you. Then the lightning spear does huge damage. At the end definitely avoid the lightning portal chucking stuff at you. It moves in a straight line but the goal of them is trying to limit your movement because there ends up being 2 of them to avoid so don't get hit when you are that close.

While I get frustrated too try to look at things objectively and as a problem to be solved. Make smaller goals instead of "I want to be endgame".

[Armis Hart]

ex_IllusionisT a écrit :

d3Sync a écrit :

This, I believe, is the crux of the issue.

And I'm speaking from experience. I'm not far into the game, but I've already encountered this pacing problem.

Not enough quests/rewards for leveling up. Perhaps one overtuned boss.
- King Of The Mists in Feythorn

Asking the player base to grind out already completed areas in the introductory act of your game is not smart IMO. I'm a few levels higher since I tried KOTM and the Act 1 boss.. I'm about to try again. But I will say that it has not been a particularly fun experience.

I'm all for challenge. But being forced to mindlessly grind areas in the first Act will drive some people away. Later in the game, this I can understand. But not in the first 20 hours.

This is not an issue. It's literally ARPG. PoE1 was like this. LE is like this. Every ARPG when you hit a wall, you need to re-farm past zones and get better gear.

I'm taking down bosses under 10 seconds, while having pretty good resistances. For my level, I'm doing great. And it's really hard to not get carried away and die, then get transferred to Standard league.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3383922665

Level alone won't bring you up to par with the wall you've hit. It's gear that's the most important part.

You chose one of the most overpowered classes untouched by nerfs. That's why you kill bosses in 10 seconds. Witch since he mentioned summons has a much harder time early on at least. Merc and Ranger just coast through.

[Chob]

Armis Hart a écrit :

ex_IllusionisT a écrit :

This is not an issue. It's literally ARPG. PoE1 was like this. LE is like this. Every ARPG when you hit a wall, you need to re-farm past zones and get better gear.

I'm taking down bosses under 10 seconds, while having pretty good resistances. For my level, I'm doing great. And it's really hard to not get carried away and die, then get transferred to Standard league.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3383922665

Level alone won't bring you up to par with the wall you've hit. It's gear that's the most important part.

You chose one of the most overpowered classes untouched by nerfs. That's why you kill bosses in 10 seconds. Witch since he mentioned summons has a much harder time early on at least. Merc and Ranger just coast through.

Lol i started with monk as my first class and it was the hardest early game. I played witch and i blasted through almost everything. Later all classes are viable.

[Googledebunker]

olstar18 a écrit :

Prince Cera a écrit :

Those skills have never been available in PoE2. This isn't PoE1, just like it's not "WoW"

No it isn't wow its poe2 and those skills were essential in poe1 so again give them back.

Sorry that you're not enjoying the game, and not wanting to take advantage of the solutions given to you. Just goes to show that some people would rather complain, than play games.

[<#C77>ex_IllusionisT]

Armis Hart a écrit :

ex_IllusionisT a écrit :

This is not an issue. It's literally ARPG. PoE1 was like this. LE is like this. Every ARPG when you hit a wall, you need to re-farm past zones and get better gear.

I'm taking down bosses under 10 seconds, while having pretty good resistances. For my level, I'm doing great. And it's really hard to not get carried away and die, then get transferred to Standard league.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3383922665

Level alone won't bring you up to par with the wall you've hit. It's gear that's the most important part.

You chose one of the most overpowered classes untouched by nerfs. That's why you kill bosses in 10 seconds. Witch since he mentioned summons has a much harder time early on at least. Merc and Ranger just coast through.

Gemling legionnaire Merc using a Quarterstaff one of the most overpowered classes?
Have you checked the ladder? In 1000 places there is barely 2-3 gemlings, much less ones using quarterstaff.

It's all Infernalists and Sorcerers.

[ClAyMoRe*]

Chob a écrit :

Armis Hart a écrit :

You chose one of the most overpowered classes untouched by nerfs. That's why you kill bosses in 10 seconds. Witch since he mentioned summons has a much harder time early on at least. Merc and Ranger just coast through.

Lol i started with monk as my first class and it was the hardest early game. I played witch and i blasted through almost everything. Later all classes are viable.

If you played witch and you blasted trough you def used some meta build, Witch is harder then monk if you follow natural progression.
So just follow some meta build with monk and you will do just as good .

[Chob]

ClAyMoRe* a écrit :

Chob a écrit :

Lol i started with monk as my first class and it was the hardest early game. I played witch and i blasted through almost everything. Later all classes are viable.

If you played witch and you blasted trough you def used some meta build, Witch is harder then monk if you follow natural progression.
So just follow some meta build with monk and you will do just as good .

What are you on about? Meta builds in act1-2? lol Monk started to pick up around the second half of act2. And yes, that was the first day, people didn't know about any meta, and honestly i don't care about them. I didn't want to use bell, i wanted to try out anything else.
Witch is not harder than monk early game just like warrior. I followed the natural progression and their skillset early game is way stronger.

[ClAyMoRe*]

Chob a écrit :

ClAyMoRe* a écrit :

If you played witch and you blasted trough you def used some meta build, Witch is harder then monk if you follow natural progression.
So just follow some meta build with monk and you will do just as good .

What are you on about? Meta builds in act1-2? lol Monk started to pick up around the second half of act2. And yes, that was the first day, people didn't know about any meta, and honestly i don't care about them. I didn't want to use bell, i wanted to try out anything else.
Witch is not harder than monk early game just like warrior. I followed the natural progression and their skillset early game is way stronger.

Very strong early game tells me enough to not take your comment serious, witch has literally lowest damage skills early game.
Yes meta builds act 1-2, idk if you are troll, or you are just clueless.

[dash slamson]

casuals will move on at some point anyway, and its ea so its probably fine

[Chob]

ClAyMoRe* a écrit :

Chob a écrit :

What are you on about? Meta builds in act1-2? lol Monk started to pick up around the second half of act2. And yes, that was the first day, people didn't know about any meta, and honestly i don't care about them. I didn't want to use bell, i wanted to try out anything else.
Witch is not harder than monk early game just like warrior. I followed the natural progression and their skillset early game is way stronger.

Very strong early game tells me enough to not take your comment serious, witch has literally lowest damage skills early game.
Yes meta builds act 1-2, idk if you are troll, or you are just clueless.

Witch literally starts with (if you follow the natural progression, using your words) spark and flamewall, for cc frost nova. Spark and flamewall can carry you to endgame. Again what are you even on about? Meta builds in early acts? With very low amount of passive points and no access to half of the skillsets? Monk early has to play around with power charges which can't be used early game well against most of the bosses.
You don't even have the game and i'm the troll?

[ClAyMoRe*]

Chob a écrit :

ClAyMoRe* a écrit :

Very strong early game tells me enough to not take your comment serious, witch has literally lowest damage skills early game.
Yes meta builds act 1-2, idk if you are troll, or you are just clueless.

Witch literally starts with (if you follow the natural progression, using your words) spark and flamewall, for cc frost nova. Spark and flamewall can carry you to endgame. Again what are you even on about? Meta builds in early acts? With very low amount of passive points and no access to half of the skillsets? Monk early has to play around with power charges which can't be used early game well against most of the bosses.
You don't even have the game and i'm the troll?

Witch starts with spark and firewall? Are you sure you are not confusing classes.

[Chob]

ClAyMoRe* a écrit :

Chob a écrit :

Witch literally starts with (if you follow the natural progression, using your words) spark and flamewall, for cc frost nova. Spark and flamewall can carry you to endgame. Again what are you even on about? Meta builds in early acts? With very low amount of passive points and no access to half of the skillsets? Monk early has to play around with power charges which can't be used early game well against most of the bosses.
You don't even have the game and i'm the troll?

Witch starts with spark and firewall? Are you sure you are not confusing classes.

And this is the proof how clueless you are. Witch and Sorceress starts at the same place on the passive tree which leads them to play either minion or spells or both at the same time at least early game. When you have enough points you can respec and play even melee if you want.
And you are trying to sound so clever while you have no clue at all.

[Armando Broncas]

Just faced Doriany, I was winning then he OF COURSE did a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ oneshot attack.

This bosses are cheap.

[Codester]

This game has meta builds already?
I just roll and use whatever and breeze through it. You pick passives based on your favourite skills you like using a bit of critical thinking.
Haven't met a boss yet that killed me more than 1 time while I was tired and unfocused.
You realise you people crying about bosses are the Fringe niche minority right?