So, i don't get why people are so mad?

[Caio Freecss]

POE2 is a different game, with different objectives.

If you really think its bad, why just don't go to path 1? Its not like they will leave the first one...

I died 110 times, just started act 1 cruel. I really don't think this game is that hard, since i'm playing warrior and can't do too much mechanics cause i'm epileptic. Why are people so mad about it?

My friend is at maps and also don't know why people are complaining about the map size...
And i also see people mad about campaing maps, like????

[jack_of_tears]

I think a lot of old PoE players had expectations for what this would be, and it doesn't live up to them yet - or might never, depending on why they're upset.

Me, I was always a casual in PoE 1 and I will be in PoE 2 as well, so all I can report on is having enjoyed myself up to this point - though I recognized quickly that melee would be less fun to play until they get it balanced.

[Hosenbund]

Originally posted by Stockwerk 13:

why cant i remove runes from items, especially FROM UNIQUES?!

oh you wanna switch builds? guess what ur uniques are now USELESS.... and bricked.


so many stupid things in this game its mindboggling

and they will fix almost all of them when fixing is necessary

[jack_of_tears]

Originally posted by SBTim:

different is ok, but not being boring, tedious, and having less build diversity

The lack of build diversity will change with time. As for boring and tedious ... I like the slower pace that most of the game has, it makes you take your time and not just explode entire screenloads of mobs at a time.

That said, I think the bosses in the campaign are too spongy - once I've seen their entire skill routine a few times the fight should be over and any more than that is just wasted time.

[Isseus]

Originally posted by jack_of_tears:

I think a lot of old PoE players had expectations for what this would be, and it doesn't live up to them yet - or might never, depending on why they're upset.

Me, I was always a casual in PoE 1 and I will be in PoE 2 as well, so all I can report on is having enjoyed myself up to this point - though I recognized quickly that melee would be less fun to play until they get it balanced.

I'm guessing they just wanted a graphics update and a story patch for PoE1 and instead got a completely new game. It'll probably pass in time.

[Stockwerk 13]

Originally posted by Hosenbund:

Originally posted by Stockwerk 13:

why cant i remove runes from items, especially FROM UNIQUES?!

oh you wanna switch builds? guess what ur uniques are now USELESS.... and bricked.


so many stupid things in this game its mindboggling

and they will fix almost all of them when fixing is necessary

first you guys claimed
"THIS IS THE SECOND COMING OF GAMING JESUS CHRIST, PoE2 WILL BE THE BEST GAME EVER"

then the game flops hard and has a million things wrong about it

"dont worry its only early access, they will fix everything eventually"

[Bones]

Originally posted by Stik Figure:

PoE came out in 2013. Those would be the people waiting for a sequel for the better part of a decade. Those are the people that played and willed PoE 2 into existence.

The group of people that wondered "What's this PoE 2 thing?" in 2020 and are disappointed now, is probably pretty small.

actually most of the player base (and income) of poe1 are casuals and wanted a poe sequel not a poe darksouls. The majority of the hate is directed at the slow and tedious game play compared to the zooming looter game poe1 was (which most casuals like). The game feels fine for the first few campainn runs but its going to start to feel really bad when you have to spend the first 30 - 40 hours of every league to even get to maps.

[Hosenbund]

Originally posted by Stockwerk 13:

Originally posted by Hosenbund:

and they will fix almost all of them when fixing is necessary

first you guys claimed
"THIS IS THE SECOND COMING OF GAMING JESUS CHRIST, PoE2 WILL BE THE BEST GAME EVER"

then the game flops hard and has a million things wrong about it

"dont worry its only early access, they will fix everything eventually"

:csgogun::secretweapon_hoi:

nothing flopped, for me it already is the best ARPG ever created, it just needs refinement

almost all of the things you listed are minor complains to me which are easily fixed

Thats like the people spelling doom because there was no loot dropping before, and then 1 day later it was already heavily enhanced

If it flopped for you, then thats fine, i predict there will be hundreds of thousands of players coming back for leagues, especially once 1.0 hits, and then it will keep thriving for the years to come

but we will see what happens

[Stockwerk 13]

Originally posted by Bones:

Originally posted by Stik Figure:

PoE came out in 2013. Those would be the people waiting for a sequel for the better part of a decade. Those are the people that played and willed PoE 2 into existence.

The group of people that wondered "What's this PoE 2 thing?" in 2020 and are disappointed now, is probably pretty small.

actually most of the player base (and income) of poe1 are casuals and wanted a poe sequel not a poe darksouls. The majority of the hate is directed at the slow and tedious game play compared to the zooming looter game poe1 was (which most casuals like). The game feels fine for the first few campainn runs but its going to start to feel really bad when you have to spend the first 30 - 40 hours of every league to even get to maps.

my hand actually cramps and hurts from hammering frost wall, frost bomb, frostbite, cold snap and frost bolt ALL ON COOLDOWN like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ maniac


this game is borderline unplayable without macros if u wanna grind 100's of hours

[jack_of_tears]

Originally posted by Bones:

... The game feels fine for the first few campainn runs but its going to start to feel really bad when ...

I think this is part of the casual thing, too, but I paid $30 for this game and will get at least 30 hours of entertainment out of it - to me that is money well spent.

(Keep in mind, when I say 'casual' I mean that I won't be spending hundreds or thousands of hours in the game, I've been an active gamer for 40 years)

[Empukris]

Originally posted by Caio Freecss:

POE2 is a different game, with different objectives.

If you really think its bad, why just don't go to path 1? Its not like they will leave the first one...

I died 110 times, just started act 1 cruel. I really don't think this game is that hard, since i'm playing warrior and can't do too much mechanics cause i'm epileptic. Why are people so mad about it?

My friend is at maps and also don't know why people are complaining about the map size...
And i also see people mad about campaing maps, like????

Some map in act 3 is just ridiculous in size that part is true as to the difficulty I love it so far. However, trial of chaos and sekhema can go eat crap. There is no fun in grinding that crap.

[Hosenbund]

Originally posted by Stockwerk 13:

Originally posted by Bones:

actually most of the player base (and income) of poe1 are casuals and wanted a poe sequel not a poe darksouls. The majority of the hate is directed at the slow and tedious game play compared to the zooming looter game poe1 was (which most casuals like). The game feels fine for the first few campainn runs but its going to start to feel really bad when you have to spend the first 30 - 40 hours of every league to even get to maps.

my hand actually cramps and hurts from hammering frost wall, frost bomb, frostbite, cold snap and frost bolt ALL ON COOLDOWN like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ maniac


this game is borderline unplayable without macros if u wanna grind 100's of hours

nonsense.
MMORPGs like WoW and FF14 play like that too and people still play them all day

you complain about literally everything at this point, no matter how nonsensical, you even complain about clicking buttons in a video game

[Bones]

Originally posted by jack_of_tears:

Originally posted by Bones:

... The game feels fine for the first few campainn runs but its going to start to feel really bad when ...

I think this is part of the casual thing, too, but I paid $30 for this game and will get at least 30 hours of entertainment out of it - to me that is money well spent.

(Keep in mind, when I say 'casual' I mean that I won't be spending hundreds or thousands of hours in the game, I've been an active gamer for 40 years)

Ive played poe so damn much i got a free key from ggg, im not looking forward to repeating this campain 1000 times when i want new build. i got my act1-10 speed down to 5 hours for a reason lol

[Stockwerk 13]

Originally posted by Hosenbund:

Originally posted by Stockwerk 13:

my hand actually cramps and hurts from hammering frost wall, frost bomb, frostbite, cold snap and frost bolt ALL ON COOLDOWN like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ maniac


this game is borderline unplayable without macros if u wanna grind 100's of hours

nonsense.
MMORPGs like WoW and FF14 play like that too and people still play them all day

you complain about literally everything at this point, no matter how nonsensical, you even complain about clicking buttons in a video game

WoW FFx14 have a thing, it is called GCD or GlobalCoolDown

in FFX14 GCD is 2,5 seconds...that is 1 keypress every 2,5 seconds.
not hammer-ur-keyboard-like-a-monkey poe style

WoW Fx14 also have ROTATIONS

both which are entirely lacking in PoE 2

in PoE 2 i just hammer all my 8 keybinds all the time

in WoW i have to actually play Piano

for my frost sorc in PoE2 i could macro all abilities into a single keybind and be fine
(which i might actually do)

[Isseus]

Originally posted by Bones:

Originally posted by Stik Figure:

PoE came out in 2013. Those would be the people waiting for a sequel for the better part of a decade. Those are the people that played and willed PoE 2 into existence.

The group of people that wondered "What's this PoE 2 thing?" in 2020 and are disappointed now, is probably pretty small.

actually most of the player base (and income) of poe1 are casuals and wanted a poe sequel not a poe darksouls. The majority of the hate is directed at the slow and tedious game play compared to the zooming looter game poe1 was (which most casuals like). The game feels fine for the first few campainn runs but its going to start to feel really bad when you have to spend the first 30 - 40 hours of every league to even get to maps.

I think you have those things completely upside down. It's the whales that put thousands of dollars into microtransactions that make the money for GGG. Just like with other free-to-play MTX heavy platforms, it's always the whales they're looking for. A few casual stash tabs are not the thing that makes GGG profit. And it's those very same "hardcore" gamers who want to go fast to optimize their currency per hour ratios and grind for days without sleep. Casuals just wanna play through the campaign, shoot baddies and get nice looking loot.

[Hosenbund]

Originally posted by Stockwerk 13:

Originally posted by Hosenbund:

nonsense.
MMORPGs like WoW and FF14 play like that too and people still play them all day

you complain about literally everything at this point, no matter how nonsensical, you even complain about clicking buttons in a video game

WoW FFx14 have a thing, it is called GCD or GlobalCoolDown

WoW Fx14 also have ROTATIONS

both which are entirely lacking in PoE 2

in PoE 2 i just hammer all my 8 keybinds all the time

in WoW i have to actually play Piano

for my frost sorc in PoE2 i could macro all abilities into a single keybind and be fine

i dont have much clue about frost sorc, i played one myself up to level 20, then thought its bs and didnt play it anymore. if i played sorc again then i would probably play a fire one instead

Merc is my main right now and it is pretty chill and actually has combos/rotations, my grenades also have a cooldowns