POE2 BAD GAME.

[SOSall?]

I finished 3 acts in like 18 hours of gameplay, and i wont continue for cruel.

Its one of, if not the worst experince i ever had in an action rpg. I never tought i ever say this but even first week of very bad leagues like lake of kalandra or necropolis was more fun than this.

I encountered some bugs, which caused me to repeat some areas or bosses. I wont comment on those as i was expecting them during early access.

Now onto things that are not caused by early access, bugs, or could be very easily avoided if somebody from ggg would play that thing.

- Why the hell are the maps in campaign so large especially in late act2 and entire act3. I bet nobody actually playtested this. Pretty much similar issues as in poe1 campaign, but on steroids. I do not want if the problem persists in lategame mapping if it does its bad as well.
- dreadnaught map, where you walk on narrow bridges and mobs are designed to jump behind you. very fun.
- Why do trash mobs respawn, im absolutely fine with bosses respawning on player death but why do trash mobs respawn as well? Add extremly overtuned map layouts and you have a terrible scenario. Despite the game is in an early access it was not marketed as a walking simulator, last time i checked.
- Why is respec so badly designed. in poe1 you got bunch of free respec points from quests and if you ran out you could always easily buy some orbs of regrets, not to mention you also find a dozen of them just clearing your path towards endgame maps, and fixing your mistakes is therefore easy. What do we have in poe2? gold respec which seems good for a moment until you find out that the price actually scales up with player level. An equivalent of this would be in poe the higher level you are the more regret orbs you need to to undo a single skill point spent. Quite stupid idea right.
- Why is it like a ruthless difficulty, do you balance the game for few streamers again?
- I wonder how many hours did you spend playtesting the roll mechanic. If you would play the game soon you would find out that often you get stuck in mobs and you would put put phase onplayer during rolling.

No i do not want to explore for 20 hours and i do not want to keep leveling for 20 hours+ ... for every character. What I want to do is to test different builds, different ascendancies i want to play actual game - meaning the endgame, and what we got? In poe1 we had 7 hours long tutorial, poe2 improved on this, and we got 20+ hours long tutorial that we will have to repeat for every new build. One thing is to have 6 classes and bunch of ascendacies when theres noone willing to repeat the game to play them.

"The keep it as is" crowd is funny. Some people love to eat ♥♥♥♥ i guess.

Theres clear difference between challenging games and bad desingn choices that are just not fun. And it seems like you failed to acknowledge the difference.

Not to be completly negative art style is absolutely stunning, and (some) bosses are fun. The game is also stable.

My biggest question is why no one mentions how BAD, TERRIBLY bad support gems are? In POE1 you can cook skills into awesome stuff with support gems, in POE1 you struggle to pick which support gem is better, in POE2 you struggle to pick support gem that atleast adds minimum dmg/minimum usefulness. I dont even know what to add to most skills when everything sucks and has more downsides than upsides. Not a single gem that just adds crit, most support gems are precooked only for "right" skills, like spell echo and cull and empower etc, you just cant use them with most of skills.

POE2 shouldnt be released in such sorry state, theres simply nothing to do, no ritual/blight/legion/garden/breach to click during tedious huge but narrow maps. Gamerdads will praise it for few weeks more, while progressing 1hr per day and then they will quit. Absolutely like in diablo4, they praised game but it became ghosttown in just a month.

In all 3 acts i have played I haven't dropped a single jewelers orb, stucked with 3 link. And I think I did most if not all side bosses.

Another bad thing that comes up to my mind are those negative passives on a skilltree. Sure we got that in poe1 on keystone like life becomes 1 l, bit you are immune to chaos damage. But in poe 2 the negative nodes arescattered all over the place for no valid reason. -10% cast speed here and -20% attack speed there. What is even the point.

[Spirit]

i´m 8 hours in and im not even halfway through act 1 (maybe because im not as "gud" as anyone else here who blink through the bosses like luffy through a grocery store)

[Danテディ]

Publicado originalmente por Wraeclast's silliest Mercenary:

While you rage we will continue to have fun! The only issue ive had so far with this game is the BS trial and the fact that ascendancy is tied to it. They remove that requirement and the game is golden

I don't mind the trial in general but it could be a bit shorter. It feels longer than the Poe1 trial. It can be spicy but not so long

[😎Astran😾]

> - Why the hell are the maps in campaign so large especially in late act2 and entire act3.

This one is quite easy: they want to add mounts and cosmetics, like in Diablo 4.

> I bet nobody actually playtested this

That's for sure. Today's patch introduced stuttering on 4090 card, on the mere 1080p monitor, on FPS capped to 60Hz and the newest driver. This can happen only with the QA lacking completely

[MadHamster]

Yeah, respecs should be free. I agree.

[Vfef]

Publicado originalmente por About:

I encountered some bugs, which caused me to repeat some areas or bosses. I wont comment on those as i was expecting them during early access.






- Why is respec so badly designed. in poe1 you got bunch of free respec points from quests and if you ran out you could always easily buy some orbs of regrets, not to mention you also find a dozen of them just clearing your path towards endgame maps, and fixing your mistakes is therefore easy. What do we have in poe2? gold respec which seems good for a moment until you find out that the price actually scales up with player level. An equivalent of this would be in poe the higher level you are the more regret orbs you need to to undo a single skill point spent. Quite stupid idea right.
- Why is it like a ruthless difficulty, do you balance the game for few streamers again?
- I wonder how many hours did you spend playtesting the roll mechanic. If you would play the game soon you would find out that often you get stuck in mobs and you would put put phase onplayer during rolling.

No i do not want to explore for 20 hours and i do not want to keep leveling for 20 hours+ ... for every character. What I want to do is to test different builds, different ascendancies i want to play actual game - meaning the endgame, and what we got? In poe1 we had 7 hours long tutorial, poe2 improved on this, and we got 20+ hours long tutorial that we will have to repeat for every new build. One thing is to have 6 classes and bunch of ascendacies when theres noone willing to repeat the game to play them.

"The keep it as is" crowd is funny. Some people love to eat ♥♥♥♥ i guess.

Theres clear difference between challenging games and bad desingn choices that are just not fun. And it seems like you failed to acknowledge the difference.

Not to be completly negative art style is absolutely stunning, and (some) bosses are fun. The game is also stable.

My biggest question is why no one mentions how BAD, TERRIBLY bad support gems are? In POE1 you can cook skills into awesome stuff with support gems, in POE1 you struggle to pick which support gem is better, in POE2 you struggle to pick support gem that atleast adds minimum dmg/minimum usefulness. I dont even know what to add to most skills when everything sucks and has more downsides than upsides. Not a single gem that just adds crit, most support gems are precooked only for "right" skills, like spell echo and cull and empower etc, you just cant use them with most of skills.

POE2 shouldnt be released in such sorry state, theres simply nothing to do, no ritual/blight/legion/garden/breach to click during tedious huge but narrow maps. Gamerdads will praise it for few weeks more, while progressing 1hr per day and then they will quit. Absolutely like in diablo4, they praised game but it became ghosttown in just a month.

In all 3 acts i have played I haven't dropped a single jewelers orb, stucked with 3 link. And I think I did most if not all side bosses.

Another bad thing that comes up to my mind are those negative passives on a skilltree. Sure we got that in poe1 on keystone like life becomes 1 l, bit you are immune to chaos damage. But in poe 2 the negative nodes arescattered all over the place for no valid reason. -10% cast speed here and -20% attack speed there. What is even the point.

" Why is respec so badly designed."

It's not, really. It's different but I'd say a far cry from bad design. Gold is absurdly generous and plentiful. There are already videos out there that are showing endless gold loops. No different than farming for orbs.

"in poe 2 the negative nodes arescattered all over the place for no valid reason."

Negative nodes may be for builds you aren't aware of. Don't want them? Don't take them. Some builds may work better with slower cast speed or less attack speed. Hell, some builds work with negative resistances. Maybe it's to make players avoid them if they want to get to a node but if that negative doesn't bother you then it's a shortcut? I don't know, I haven't done any theory crafting yet. If you don't understand it, don't worry, it's probably not for you.

"POE2 shouldnt be released in such sorry state"

It's not a full release version. You said yourself it's early access and it's expected to be unbalanced and incomplete. We're talking 6-8 months of development left according to the devs before a 1.0.

From the POE2 steam page
"We are planning to add three more Acts, six more Classes and all corresponding Ascendancy classes, lots of skill gems and items, as well as more endgame content, areas, bosses and monsters." additional content is coming.


Most of your complaints look to be already addressed on the long range calendar and are going to be changed by release. If not, POE 1 will still be live. You said you understood it was EA but then go on to complain that it's not feature complete. If you're mad and just need to rant then you should lead with that. Otherwise it seems really odd.

[Scarsick]

K, bye.

The best thing about this beta is it filters out players like you.

[Tyler_davis21]

Good points really. You are not alone in how you feel. people love the SOULS and ER type games. Love the challenge.. and that is fine.. but that does not belong in a POE or Diablo type game. Sure have it for the big bosses but not every single boss.. You login just to play one area because it takes over an hour. It is just not efficient. I %100 agree with you on the skills. POE1 skills, and their system, were GREAT, you could mix and match and had tons of options. Also, you could lvl up your gems. Crafting seem to be a joke in POE2.. cant roll blues to how you want them that I found, and then go from there. Game runs great, load times are a bit slow, but they will likely get better. The game is far too slow as well. My thought is, they should not have called this POE2, it is not POE2. it is a spin off of POE1 with souls like gameplay. We can just hope they add a POE1 style gameplay as well, that would solve their issue. Who wants to play 100s of hours just to get into mapping.. I rather play 100 hours and be close to min max.

[ChaosU]

Publicado originalmente por Spirit:

i´m 8 hours in and im not even halfway through act 1 (maybe because im not as "gud" as anyone else here who blink through the bosses like luffy through a grocery store)

You dont need to be a god to get through campain you just need to adapt find synagies expand on them! I know some classes is out performed by others but if you want it to be easier change to elementalist or what the caster is called that should be easy to get through the game... Else look your stats you proberly need resistance if you die a lot,look for adictive damage modifires and skill lvls and always get as much hp you can on gear... This might helt some... And dont forget skill /support gems needs synagies!

[Irish Parker]

Publicado originalmente por About:

I finished 3 acts in like 18 hours of gameplay, and i wont continue for cruel.

Your Account:
Path or Exile / TOTAL PLAYED
68 minutes

What an idiot.

[simon]

Hes only played for 68 minuets. He has not completed the three acts in 18 hours. Why lie m8?

[Dota 3 low priority hráč]

Publicado originalmente por simon:

Hes only played for 68 minuets. He has not completed the three acts in 18 hours. Why lies m8?

This is funny thread. I do not know op, but this is what I actually wrote at poe forum. How it ended up here I have no idea

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3610724

Yes that is my account over there.

Also the game is indeed ♥♥♥♥, devs pulled out ruthless mode which nobody but few nolife streamers really like nor plays.

[simon]

Publicado originalmente por Dota 3 low priority hráč:

Publicado originalmente por simon:

Hes only played for 68 minuets. He has not completed the three acts in 18 hours. Why lies m8?

This is funny thread. I do not know op, but this is what I actually wrote at poe forum. How it ended up here I have no idea

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3610724

Yes that is my account over there.

ROFL. I wonder if he will post again :P

[SOSall?]

Publicado originalmente por JayXan:

Looks to me that you have a total played time of 68 minutes according to your profile.

cretin there is such a thing as an Xbox

[Sol4rSky]

S K I L L
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Get gud op
smh

[Alex]

Publicado originalmente por About:

Publicado originalmente por JayXan:

Looks to me that you have a total played time of 68 minutes according to your profile.

cretin there is such a thing as an Xbox

You were caught copying this post pls stop it.