Party scaling is bugged beyond reason?

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So I'm lvl 46 and I tried to help someone with a lvl 19 boss. I have learned there is something very weird going on with the scaling. Maybe it is bugged, maybe it is intended, maybe it just needs better balancing. I would just like to know what everyone elses experience is with this.

My friend was doing 200 dmg per hit and I was doing 5000 dmg per hit, according to the damage numbers. Yet the Boss HP bar barely went down, as if I wasn't doing dmg at all. That or I was being scaled down to 200 dmg?

For testing purposes, I went back to the same boss, solo. I killed her in under 10secs... With my friend it would take anywhere ranging 5 to 10 mins. I didn't check the time, but it was crazy long. I would also get oneshot by one of the bosses abilities, even though I am over 20 levels above the boss...

Any clarification on Parties and scaling is much appreciated. I would love to be able to help people better, by understanding the game mechanics surrounding this. Thanks!

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

Originally posted by Lil' Botchling:

So I'm lvl 46 and I tried to help someone with a lvl 19 boss. I have learned there is something very weird going on with the scaling. Maybe it is bugged, maybe it is intended, maybe it just needs better balancing. I would just like to know what everyone elses experience is with this.

My friend was doing 200 dmg per hit and I was doing 5000 dmg per hit, according to the damage numbers. Yet the Boss HP bar barely went down, as if I wasn't doing dmg at all. That or I was being scaled down to 200 dmg?

For testing purposes, I went back to the same boss, solo. I killed her in under 10secs... With my friend it would take anywhere ranging 5 to 10 mins. I didn't check the time, but it was crazy long. I would also get oneshot by one of the bosses abilities, even though I am over 20 levels above the boss...

Any clarification on Parties and scaling is much appreciated. I would love to be able to help people better, by understanding the game mechanics surrounding this. Thanks!

Depends entirely on the Party Leader settings.

You get scaled down to their level, or you dont.

Also boss HP increases with more party members.

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Extra info:

Earlier I also helped someone with a lvl 37 boss and that seemed to be fine. We killed it decently fast. As it should, since I am a stormweaver with crazy high dps...

So based on this, maybe there is a max on level difference you can party up with, before it does strange scaling? maybe 10 levels?

[everythingsucks]

Its like this is in 99% of games not named wow classic

Damage downscales in parties so people can't just get carried unless you make a support build that boosts party member damage.

Your damage is doing 5k. It to the game the boss has more damage for you. Many games have this, like d4 and new world. You'll have a lvl 90 and a lvl 5 kill the same boss but doing similar damagae

And ofc the closer in level you are the less the effect.

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

Originally posted by Lil' Botchling:

Extra info:

Earlier I also helped someone with a lvl 37 boss and that seemed to be fine. We killed it decently fast. As it should, since I am a stormweaver with crazy high dps...

So based on this, maybe there is a max on level difference you can party up with, before it does strange scaling? maybe 10 levels?

More than likely the one guy had down scaling turned on and the other did not.

[No, I'm not, You are!]

Originally posted by xXBulletJusticeXx:

Originally posted by Lil' Botchling:

Extra info:

Earlier I also helped someone with a lvl 37 boss and that seemed to be fine. We killed it decently fast. As it should, since I am a stormweaver with crazy high dps...

So based on this, maybe there is a max on level difference you can party up with, before it does strange scaling? maybe 10 levels?

More than likely the one guy had down scaling turned on and the other did not.

Very interesting if this is the case! :) It would certainly explain a lot. I will check for settings next time. Thanks for your reply.

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

Originally posted by Lil' Botchling:

Originally posted by xXBulletJusticeXx:

More than likely the one guy had down scaling turned on and the other did not.

Very interesting if this is the case! :) It would certainly explain a lot. I will check for settings next time. Thanks for your reply.

Just keep in mind, it's the Party Leaders settings that matter, not yours.

EDIT: same for item allocation

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Originally posted by xXBulletJusticeXx:

Originally posted by Lil' Botchling:

Very interesting if this is the case! :) It would certainly explain a lot. I will check for settings next time. Thanks for your reply.

Just keep in mind, it's the Party Leaders settings that matter, not yours.

EDIT: same for item allocation

You are most probably correct, so I have you as the solution. I just helped someone else with the A2 end boss. The guy died pretty quick and I managed to solo the boss without too much issues. I will defo be on the lookout for an option when I am party leader :)