Basic Attack does more dmg than skills.

[Drôwnêd]

My basic attack as a ranger does way more dmg than my skill and im at lvl 25.
I do have Support Gems in skills and leveled up the skills but it seems my basic attack is always strongest by making at least 3x dmg

edit: with skills i mean lightning rod and strike combo.

[ominumi]

Originally posted by wererabbit:

Remember that like in WoW or Diablo or you name the game, white damage (your basic attack damage) is always your main DPS. Special attacks can provide DPS boosts but for non-magic characters, basic attack DPS always wins.

That's because in those type of games, basic/auto attacks are filler attacks.
Here's a game where basic attacks are not require...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GXhamQWSZ4

[Drôwnêd]

Originally posted by Witch:

i use this build and it's effective but can't say if it's better than auto attack, i never used it after the first map https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lO8cfzEJpyY83XS8XCoyjjZoplURiqyNfN5PFBvmqN0/preview?tab=t.0#

i use the same

[Wubbinz]

I'm in act 3 with my ranger and I'm still using auto attack for single targets and a couple of "spells" for groups. It's just way more damaging than any spell I've tried so far. Not that it's destroying things, everything still takes a while to die.

[ShadyLurker]

Originally posted by Drôwnêd:

Originally posted by JinxTheWorld:

That's to balance it out. If the basic attack did nothing then nobody would ever use it lol.

well now i am 90% basic attack and thats not what is fun

Then you don't understand the skill system. You're supposed to combo abilities to get the most out of them. When combo'd right, they will do WAY more damage then basic attack.

[Witch]

Originally posted by Drôwnêd:

Originally posted by Witch:

i use this build and it's effective but can't say if it's better than auto attack, i never used it after the first map https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lO8cfzEJpyY83XS8XCoyjjZoplURiqyNfN5PFBvmqN0/preview?tab=t.0#

i use the same

I'm gonna try to auto so x) Have a big lack of dps in act 4

[KillJoy]

Originally posted by ShadyLurker:

Originally posted by Drôwnêd:

well now i am 90% basic attack and thats not what is fun

Then you don't understand the skill system. You're supposed to combo abilities to get the most out of them. When combo'd right, they will do WAY more damage then basic attack.

Yes, but to me it feels like the combo's are not working well. Something feels of with warrior skills. I noticed the same thing when I played warrior.
Then I tried witch, and it was very different.

[Wubbinz]

Originally posted by KillJoy:

Originally posted by ShadyLurker:

Then you don't understand the skill system. You're supposed to combo abilities to get the most out of them. When combo'd right, they will do WAY more damage then basic attack.

Yes, but to me it feels like the combo's are not working well. Something feels of with warrior skills. I noticed the same thing when I played warrior.
Then I tried witch, and it was very different.

Problem with the combination skills is that many bosses are very mobile so while you're setting up your combo the boss is already gone. Making it so that just spamming auto attack is more effective.

[Medicles]

Originally posted by Paton:

I'm in act 3 with my ranger and I'm still using auto attack for single targets and a couple of "spells" for groups. It's just way more damaging than any spell I've tried so far. Not that it's destroying things, everything still takes a while to die.

What build do you even have then? With Lightning Stormcaller certainly does more damage than basic attack and Poison is Poison. Only Cold would have a reason to use basic attack, but i somehow doubt you are going full Cold.

[ShadyLurker]

Originally posted by KillJoy:

Originally posted by ShadyLurker:

Then you don't understand the skill system. You're supposed to combo abilities to get the most out of them. When combo'd right, they will do WAY more damage then basic attack.

Yes, but to me it feels like the combo's are not working well. Something feels of with warrior skills. I noticed the same thing when I played warrior.
Then I tried witch, and it was very different.

I am melting the entire game with totem, into rolling slam, into boneshatter on stunned enemies, It feels amazing to hit one stunned guy with Boneshater and everything around him just explodes.

[Wubbinz]

Originally posted by Medicles:

Originally posted by Paton:

I'm in act 3 with my ranger and I'm still using auto attack for single targets and a couple of "spells" for groups. It's just way more damaging than any spell I've tried so far. Not that it's destroying things, everything still takes a while to die.

What build do you even have then? With Lightning Stormcaller certainly does more damage than basic attack and Poison is Poison. Only Cold would have a reason to use basic attack, but i somehow doubt you are going full Cold.

I have all points in projectile damage and in better bonus from quiver. Maybe like 4 points into defensive stats. I'm full projectile damage.

[Drôwnêd]

Originally posted by Witch:

Originally posted by Drôwnêd:

i use the same

I'm gonna try to auto so x) Have a big lack of dps in act 4

i mean it works for me but i am start of act 2

[Drôwnêd]

Originally posted by ShadyLurker:

Originally posted by Drôwnêd:

well now i am 90% basic attack and thats not what is fun

Then you don't understand the skill system. You're supposed to combo abilities to get the most out of them. When combo'd right, they will do WAY more damage then basic attack.

i do combo my abilities but the basic atk does more dmg than the combo hence the 90% basic attack. i do want to play my combos but if it does ♥♥♥♥ why bother

[Jesus Christ]

Your basic attack is for dealing with single enemies. Skills are for dots, cc, aoe, status effects. I'm playing fire sorc in hardcore and so far I'll fire bolt if dealing with single enemy. Crowd shows up, I'll set up fire wall and fusillade then fire bolt while fusillade and fire wall are up.

This game is about utilising all your skills rather than just spamming one forever.

[Medicles]

Originally posted by Paton:

Originally posted by Medicles:

What build do you even have then? With Lightning Stormcaller certainly does more damage than basic attack and Poison is Poison. Only Cold would have a reason to use basic attack, but i somehow doubt you are going full Cold.

I have all points in projectile damage and in better bonus from quiver. Maybe like 4 points into defensive stats. I'm full projectile damage.

I see, that certainly makes sense for a basic attack build as well.

[Wubbinz]

Originally posted by David Hayter, ♥♥♥ Crusader:

Your basic attack is for dealing with single enemies. Skills are for dots, cc, aoe, status effects. I'm playing fire sorc in hardcore and so far I'll fire bolt if dealing with single enemy. Crowd shows up, I'll set up fire wall and fusillade then fire bolt while fusillade and fire wall are up.

This game is about utilising all your skills rather than just spamming one forever.

That's fair enough but the issue is when a boss takes 5 minutes to kill and you have nothing more effective than your basic attack for single target then the 5 minute fight is just basic attack, dodge, basic attack, basic attack, dodge, dodge, dodge, basic attack.

That gets old pretty fast. I'm level 39 right now and I just don't have any desire to hit play now. At all.