Minions are too weak

[PikaCrew]

All my minions are useless. They die so quickly they might as well not exist. Worked in 4 hours on a witch because I love summoners but now it feels like 4 hours wasted. Many other player I have talked to feel the same.

[kevinbyr]

No idea what you are talking about. It's generally considered right now witch with minion/contagion/ ES is overpowered and steamroll everything except some bosses.

I don't even get touched. As my minions steamroll over everything while contagion and ES dot entire waves of enemies to death.
Definitely a build issues. Doesn't work on bosses but just dot them and dodge

[RealBadNewsWashingtonTTV]

Originally posted by kevinbyr:

No idea what you are talking about. It's generally considered right now witch with minion/contagion/ ES is overpowered and steamroll everything except some bosses.

I don't even get touched. As my minions steamroll over everything while contagion and ES dot entire waves of enemies to death.
Definitely a build issues. Doesn't work on bosses but just dot them and dodge

This. Witch only struggles on bosses because a Boss AOE will usually quickly wipe out most of the minions leaving the witch alone and struggling but thats why we have super fast minion respawn so...but I would def say that Witch is super powerful

[Tachyon]

My Witch kicked ass even at lvl 6. Trash mobs died in droves and the area bosses died in 6 to 8 seconds. This afternoon I gained another 6 levels. You can't just let your minions carry you, though. You need to be continually using Contagion, a decent Wand and the temporary minions you get from Unearth.

[Saccara]

OP is right. Minions are weak as ♥♥♥♥, at the beginning. They also stuck in small corridors, before Evelators or Boss areas. Within Act3 they become somewhat more robust.


@OP: Check this video out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWUXWq-cUhI

[Tachyon]

The above video is amazing, but I'm far from the level of being able to do all that - yet. What can help out if struggling in the very early levels is, if you get an Uncut Skill Gem, you can right-click it, select Elemental skill, and pick Fire Wall, which is great for the damage it causes anyway. The good thing is that having played a newbie Sorcerer I knew that anything fired through it, such as the Sorcerer's spells, adds Fire damage to the spell. What's great for a Necromancer is that this includes the arrows from Skeleton Archers!!

They're a random drop, and my lvl 4 Mercenary character got one as a drop from a normal mob a few minutes ago. Prior to the penny dropping for me, I wasted a couple earlier on that other characters had picked up, thinking I could only choose a skill from that class. 😟 I put this one in the Stash for my Necromancer, used it, then got rid of all my skeleton warriors and upped the skeleton archer numbers.

Hang on to those items, because a skill from another class could be very handy in a build. I'll definitely be doing what's in the video when I am able to. 🙂

[PikaCrew]

Originally posted by kevinbyr:

No idea what you are talking about. It's generally considered right now witch with minion/contagion/ ES is overpowered and steamroll everything except some bosses.

I don't even get touched. As my minions steamroll over everything while contagion and ES dot entire waves of enemies to death.
Definitely a build issues. Doesn't work on bosses but just dot them and dodge

Unearth minions are only good for spreading contagion. Thats not minions being good, thats contagion carrying the build. Minions are really weak and if they have a health instead of just duration, they feel useless.

[PikaCrew]

Originally posted by RealBadNewsWashingtonTTV:

Originally posted by kevinbyr:

No idea what you are talking about. It's generally considered right now witch with minion/contagion/ ES is overpowered and steamroll everything except some bosses.

I don't even get touched. As my minions steamroll over everything while contagion and ES dot entire waves of enemies to death.
Definitely a build issues. Doesn't work on bosses but just dot them and dodge

This. Witch only struggles on bosses because a Boss AOE will usually quickly wipe out most of the minions leaving the witch alone and struggling but thats why we have super fast minion respawn so...but I would def say that Witch is super powerful

With themselves may have some strong builds, minion focused builds arent it. Minions dont tank because they die too much too quickly. I have even specced into minion health first and they still dont survive. Quick revive doesnt matter if they just immediately die again.

[PikaCrew]

Originally posted by Tachyon:

My Witch kicked ass even at lvl 6. Trash mobs died in droves and the area bosses died in 6 to 8 seconds. This afternoon I gained another 6 levels. You can't just let your minions carry you, though. You need to be continually using Contagion, a decent Wand and the temporary minions you get from Unearth.

But thats not a minion build when most of the work isn't done by your minions. In PoE 1, minions actually did things like tank for you and/or actually deal damage.

[PapiDeHusky]

Originally posted by RealBadNewsWashingtonTTV:

Originally posted by kevinbyr:

No idea what you are talking about. It's generally considered right now witch with minion/contagion/ ES is overpowered and steamroll everything except some bosses.

I don't even get touched. As my minions steamroll over everything while contagion and ES dot entire waves of enemies to death.
Definitely a build issues. Doesn't work on bosses but just dot them and dodge

This. Witch only struggles on bosses because a Boss AOE will usually quickly wipe out most of the minions leaving the witch alone and struggling but thats why we have super fast minion respawn so...but I would def say that Witch is super powerful

the only thing that the witch struggles also from bad AI pathing / blocking
there are some stages where minions gets left behind due to terrain especially when you going up to down or down to up stages
yes minions will teleport at your location when you cover some distances but by then before they can teleport you be dead before they can teleport