"EXTREME DIFFICULTY" means trash game

[Frank White]

I just wanted to say i was looking at this game ,just beat like poe 1 "campaign" dont even have poe 2,i am total noob in this genre,and mainly negative comments were about game is to hard or servers from day 1..From my understanding this is very good honest developer and its getting even with 82% rating nuked with all same thing game to hard to boring to slow.I beat every souls game or souls like like 15 times,Not a single one of them is ez first time i could not get past 2 hours in each one,it is launch day no one knows anything they have "experience "from poe1 and thats it ..Difficulty means you feel satisfied when you overcome something ,stupid boss is designed to die if it was screen clearing it would be so boring ..Developer can always nerfed boss from 10 to 9 and its fine but you cant fixed trash game this is not trash game its highest quality .For new players,dont nuke good developer and move from Spiderman and Horizon comfort zones..Bg3 has 96% rating i guarantee you if you play on tactican you would cry and call game ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥..Why people are in rush to beat it first day or talking about roll spam ,from Elden ring or souls point of view 50% of fight you do not even roll ,boss have mechanics where you just side step or walk around him and he misses same thing is here from what i watched..You will feel better when you overcome something ,cheers

[@R+5]

only woke journos and non-gamers will preemptively hate something if its hard or demands sill.

play the original to know what to expect. it isnt that hard, just a bit grindy

[Machin Shin]

Some(many) people don't want any challenge in games, and that makes games so damn bad nowadays

This people please just stay away and don't destroy more games with them crying.

[Akasha <3 Somats]

Has nothing to do with challenge and the fact you're literally hitting space bar 100% of the game and able to do abilities every now and then to the boss. The fact this game was not advertised as a souls game is the big issue. The description should be changed according to how the game is going to be because while it might not be hard to you that is great you're not the whole player base. Nothing is fun about dodging nonstop to people that aren't obsessed with souls like games. The fact the bosses drop ♥♥♥♥ for loot for such long fights it ridiculous. There is no feeling like you got rewarded when you down the bosses because where is the loot it's not there...... The game is early access they ask for feedback and you can't be annoyed when people give their feedback.

[GingerBreadMan]

Originally posted by @R+5:

only woke journos and non-gamers will preemptively hate something if its hard or demands sill.

play the original to know what to expect. it isnt that hard, just a bit grindy

Dude that's a dumb take

[Machin Shin]

Originally posted by Akasha <3 Somats:

Has nothing to do with challenge and the fact you're literally hitting space bar 100% of the game and able to do abilities every now and then to the boss. The fact this game was not advertised as a souls game is the big issue. The description should be changed according to how the game is going to be because while it might not be hard to you that is great you're not the whole player base. Nothing is fun about dodging nonstop to people that aren't obsessed with souls like games. The fact the bosses drop ♥♥♥♥ for loot for such long fights it ridiculous. There is no feeling like you got rewarded when you down the bosses because where is the loot it's not there...... The game is early access they ask for feedback and you can't be annoyed when people give their feedback.

GGG said it will be harder than PoE several times. The dodge mechanic for me is what the ARPG genre needed.

[Cormac]

There are people who want it hard, and people who find it a bit annoying but for whom hard is better. But there are also people who no longer have the same reaction as when they were younger. I can't even make it to the first camp with the monk, even with the best will in the world. It's a game, and it should offer something for everyone. Why not like in Last Epoch? There's a secret area right at the beginning where shoes drop that make the game harder. Offers an item that gives 100% on everything, but where, for example, only 50% or 10% drops money or items. Simply as a fallback solution for those who can't make it even with the best will in the world.

[Moose]

Originally posted by @R+5:

only woke journos and non-gamers will preemptively hate something if its hard or demands sill.

play the original to know what to expect. it isnt that hard, just a bit grindy

this game is incredibly different from the original. though people that say "i didn't play poe1, but i can't wait to get in to poe2" are extremely annoying to me. poe1 is a one of a kind game. the best arpg ever made and there is no reason to "skip" it to play this. anyone who has not played poe1 shoudl start playing immediately.

[Moose]

Originally posted by Cormac:

There are people who want it hard, and people who find it a bit annoying but for whom hard is better. But there are also people who no longer have the same reaction as when they were younger. I can't even make it to the first camp with the monk, even with the best will in the world. It's a game, and it should offer something for everyone. Why not like in Last Epoch? There's a secret area right at the beginning where shoes drop that make the game harder. Offers an item that gives 100% on everything, but where, for example, only 50% or 10% drops money or items. Simply as a fallback solution for those who can't make it even with the best will in the world.

LIKE WHAT IS KILLING OYU?!?!? you can't make it to the first camp?? how can you possibly be this bad?

[Arestris]

Except this game is NOT extreme difficult, yes, it's for sure a challenge but extreme difficult? No, not really, improve your char and try again if you've problems. For me executioner was the first boss I had any problems with at all.

[Reineke]

A lot of people want to chill in game, but not every game is about chilling, and that's what they refuse to accept.

[Cormac]

Originally posted by Moose:

Originally posted by Cormac:

There are people who want it hard, and people who find it a bit annoying but for whom hard is better. But there are also people who no longer have the same reaction as when they were younger. I can't even make it to the first camp with the monk, even with the best will in the world. It's a game, and it should offer something for everyone. Why not like in Last Epoch? There's a secret area right at the beginning where shoes drop that make the game harder. Offers an item that gives 100% on everything, but where, for example, only 50% or 10% drops money or items. Simply as a fallback solution for those who can't make it even with the best will in the world.

LIKE WHAT IS KILLING OYU?!?!? you can't make it to the first camp?? how can you possibly be this bad?

I am 61. Call it age latency, possibly

[Squid]

The hardest part is just not getting swarmed. You see something glowy appear, you walk out of the attack range. Boom, you are winning the game

[Cormac]

With a ranged fighter, the first boss is super easy. You go to the other side of the river and he stands there helpless.

[Overeagerdragon]

Originally posted by Moose:

Originally posted by Cormac:

There are people who want it hard, and people who find it a bit annoying but for whom hard is better. But there are also people who no longer have the same reaction as when they were younger. I can't even make it to the first camp with the monk, even with the best will in the world. It's a game, and it should offer something for everyone. Why not like in Last Epoch? There's a secret area right at the beginning where shoes drop that make the game harder. Offers an item that gives 100% on everything, but where, for example, only 50% or 10% drops money or items. Simply as a fallback solution for those who can't make it even with the best will in the world.

LIKE WHAT IS KILLING OYU?!?!? you can't make it to the first camp?? how can you possibly be this bad?

Prolly the miller...

I had a hard time getting anywhere with the monk too... you are paperthin when it comes to being able to sustain hits. Once you actually get going you can dish out some serious damage, sure, but it does mean that if you get hit during a boss fight you better pray to the high heavens you'll survive that hit... if the beach doesn't grace you with any armour drops then any of the millers move is likely to kill you during that fight

Warrior has armour to mitigate that... even a shield option if so inclined so you have much better leeway to make a mistake

ALL other classes have (long)range options

Monk has neither of the above AND a startup time to boot... it's the only class I struggled with at the beginning

[Frank White]

Originally posted by Akasha <3 Somats:

Has nothing to do with challenge and the fact you're literally hitting space bar 100% of the game and able to do abilities every now and then to the boss. The fact this game was not advertised as a souls game is the big issue. The description should be changed according to how the game is going to be because while it might not be hard to you that is great you're not the whole player base. Nothing is fun about dodging nonstop to people that aren't obsessed with souls like games. The fact the bosses drop ♥♥♥♥ for loot for such long fights it ridiculous. There is no feeling like you got rewarded when you down the bosses because where is the loot it's not there...... The game is early access they ask for feedback and you can't be annoyed when people give their feedback.

But you got wrong description from someone why its called souls like ,souls like its not about difficulty its about certain mechanics that only appear in their game like bonfire aka checkpoint where everything restarts and you lose your currency and you have one time to get it back or you lose,or main thing is that bosses have different phases on half hp or multiple phases and totally different mechanic ,adding roll is not what it makes souls like like roll is big deal it just another way to play the game same as they added jump in Elden ring after you nave had that ,wow a jump lets cry about it..Poe is not even tagged as souls like they just said that they had inspiration to certain things like art ,bosses design ,darker themes etc and that is good thing because there is no developer on this planet that makes bosses better then Fromsoftware so you wanna look at best and its marketing to get more people playing it because everysingle game list top 10 top 5 games has RDR 2 ,ELDEN RING,BG3 IN it so people look and think wtf is this elden ring or bg3 even though divinity 2 is out for years or dark souls and its same games 1to 1...i give you example STAR WARS Jedi is tagged as souls like and has difficulty sliders ,it not about difficulty it has bosses with health bar across screen and different phases and leveling ..Every single multiplayer game is harder then souls or anything because you play vs human which forever will be more advanced then ai it just learning