Geonor Feels Awful as Warrior

[Strongii]

Earthquake is just far too slow to bother using in the fight.

I've been doing fine running EQ but I've hit the boss at 17, and simply the ability cannot contend with the mechanics.

The only feasible attack for that boss is basic attack into boneshatter IF and that's a big if you can get stun up that high in phase 2.

There's too much anti-mobility mechanics for how slow warrior is and the intermission where we could feasibly get pot charges you spend the entire time getting body blocked and pushed around by the adds.

Either warrior needs better, fast abilities pre-act 2 or the boss needs fewer slow mechanics because this is genuinely horrid

[WariousGaming]

GEONOR is a fing retar*** boss to fight as warrior when in wolf form (2nd phase) - UNBEATABLE and I even used orbs to upgrade my gear, add sockets and have freaking 40% cold resistance and it is still unbeatable by me - sitting there stuck at 18 lvl - and I fought him already 5 times -.- never I encountered such stupid boss to fight. GGG should make him spam frost skills ever 1 second - WOULD BE BETTER -.- I dodge - I am pissed as hell rn even thinking about it.

I agree this boss need refactoring or warrior need something else idk what.

[Overeagerdragon]

The wolf boi fight was badly thoughtout...

As a witch I get curses and summons (advised by the game I mean).
* Summons die in 1 hit and can even get killed WHILST they are spawning... so all summons are off the table
* Wolf boi has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of HP and hits like a truck... so DoT based mages take FOREVER to get him down; can't stun him and are squishy enough to be 1-shot... not to mention you get swarmed by adds in the mist phase because you don't deal direct damage so you need time to apply and spread your dots...let alone kill any of them.. so you're body blocked into the mist and get spammed to death...

My merc took down wolf boi at lvl 14 (just beelining the story)(1 attempt)
My witch BARELY took him down at lvl 18 (after grinding for the best gear I could get for that figt specifically for TWO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HOURS)(20+ attempts)

I know bosses should be a challenge but this is just too big of a dichotemy

[WariousGaming]

Originally posted by Overeagerdragon:

The wolf boi fight was badly thoughtout...

As a witch I get curses and summons (advised by the game I mean).
* Summons die in 1 hit and can even get killed WHILST they are spawning... so all summons are off the table
* Wolf boi has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of HP and hits like a truck... so DoT based mages take FOREVER to get him down; can't stun him and are squishy enough to be 1-shot... not to mention you get swarmed by adds in the mist phase because you don't deal direct damage so you need time to apply and spread your dots...let alone kill any of them.. so you're body blocked into the mist and get spammed to death...

My merc took down wolf boi at lvl 14 (just beelining the story)(1 attempt)
My witch BARELY took him down at lvl 18 (after grinding for the best gear I could get for that figt specifically for TWO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HOURS)(20+ attempts)

I know bosses should be a challenge but this is just too big of a dichotemy

This is very early game big boss that should be challenging, but it is too annoying and too hard - and let's say I tried additional 5 times to beat this boss and still couldn't - I ALMOST did when boss was about to die he get to FOG and he eradicated me there coz he got this stupid mechanic that dropped "blood rain" on you every few seconds and he killed me there - I said ENOUGH and I play with Sorc rn to lvl her up coz WHAT I CAN DO beside being locked behind some stupid boss after 10 attempts I couldn't do it..... and to every idiot who will mock every person who struggle with this boss - I KNOW HOW TO PLAY game and how to dodge / move and use skills not like moron to spam them and I get hit coz I was dumb facerolling.... it isn't my fault - also I have seen few vids when he was melted easy and even no-potion run but bruh this is difficult as hell.

IDK maybe I will try to fight him tomorrow coz I am so pissed I am about to play something else to chill the f out.

[NickelToe]

Originally posted by Strongii:

Earthquake is just far too slow to bother using in the fight.

I've been doing fine running EQ but I've hit the boss at 17, and simply the ability cannot contend with the mechanics.

The only feasible attack for that boss is basic attack into boneshatter IF and that's a big if you can get stun up that high in phase 2.

There's too much anti-mobility mechanics for how slow warrior is and the intermission where we could feasibly get pot charges you spend the entire time getting body blocked and pushed around by the adds.

Either warrior needs better, fast abilities pre-act 2 or the boss needs fewer slow mechanics because this is genuinely horrid

Earthquake speeds up when you level it and add support gems which drop regularly to add to your abilities. I clear boss adds with it as a second thought.

Bone Shatter, Charge and Earthquake trivialize bosses with adds or lots of dodging like the druid before cemetary.

[4th]

Agreed body blocking is the worst part of Poe2. For me Poe2 is genuinely an incredible game, I have no other complaints, but body blocking is gonna make it quit at some point I can feel it. Why not just allow us to dodgeroll out? Nobody asked for dodgerolling but they gave it to us, fine. So why not allow that to be the fix for this terrible mechanic? But no. They prevent us dodgerolling through large enemies or group so you end up getting one shot. It's an anti-fun mechanic in an otherwise incredible game.

[Magpie]

They really should add an Easy Mode for you whiners and remove body block and half boss HP and damage and remove half their attacks. Then will you be happy? If you can just disengage your brain and float through the game on easy mode?

I found this boss hard. I invited a friend to come and help me. We defeated him together, not easily. It was fun. Maybe try playing with friends... if you have any.

[Grimmsch]

Here is a guy doing it without potions. Looks hard tho but maybe it helps.

https://youtu.be/x0efGvWAhPE

[Strongii]

Originally posted by NickelToe:

Originally posted by Strongii:

Earthquake is just far too slow to bother using in the fight.

I've been doing fine running EQ but I've hit the boss at 17, and simply the ability cannot contend with the mechanics.

The only feasible attack for that boss is basic attack into boneshatter IF and that's a big if you can get stun up that high in phase 2.

There's too much anti-mobility mechanics for how slow warrior is and the intermission where we could feasibly get pot charges you spend the entire time getting body blocked and pushed around by the adds.

Either warrior needs better, fast abilities pre-act 2 or the boss needs fewer slow mechanics because this is genuinely horrid

Earthquake speeds up when you level it and add support gems which drop regularly to add to your abilities. I clear boss adds with it as a second thought.

Bone Shatter, Charge and Earthquake trivialize bosses with adds or lots of dodging like the druid before cemetary.

At the level you fight him you can reduce the detonation time of earthquake to 3 seconds down from 4.

Most every boss has been fine but this one simply restricts your ability to lay them down to the point he's just not going to be in the area by the time it goes off.

If you have ways to make it faster than that I'm all ears though

[Strongii]

Originally posted by Magpie:

They really should add an Easy Mode for you whiners and remove body block and half boss HP and damage and remove half their attacks. Then will you be happy? If you can just disengage your brain and float through the game on easy mode?

I found this boss hard. I invited a friend to come and help me. We defeated him together, not easily. It was fun. Maybe try playing with friends... if you have any.

I'm sorry this a beta test and this is honest feedback.

I'm not talking about my own ability to beat the boss or not but anything bar molten strike spam is simply tedious.

It's not about easy or hard, it's about whether this is enjoyable and the options which are available to the warrior up until this point simply do not engage with this boss.

The best ability against him is molten blast for the sole reason that it is ranged and doesn't require 3 seconds to detonate.

The goal of the game is to be beaten without min/maxing and without forced multiplayer so until that's accomplished they need this kind of feedback

[GodHead]

It's a build check and nothing more.

[Strongii]

Originally posted by Grimmsch:

Here is a guy doing it without potions. Looks hard tho but maybe it helps.

https://youtu.be/x0efGvWAhPE

Just to put it out there I have beat the guy, but tbh without molten blast just making it a slow ranged fight it's just a bit tedious. Like going pure physical the bugger took what feels like 10 minutes of basic attack spam to get to around 5%

https://youtu.be/mv8OCdXG2CI?si=gwD3q3cE_pUbukEI

[LemonRush7777]

Originally posted by Strongii:

Originally posted by Magpie:

They really should add an Easy Mode for you whiners and remove body block and half boss HP and damage and remove half their attacks. Then will you be happy? If you can just disengage your brain and float through the game on easy mode?

I found this boss hard. I invited a friend to come and help me. We defeated him together, not easily. It was fun. Maybe try playing with friends... if you have any.

I'm sorry this a beta test and this is honest feedback.

I'm not talking about my own ability to beat the boss or not but anything bar molten strike spam is simply tedious.

It's not about easy or hard, it's about whether this is enjoyable and the options which are available to the warrior up until this point simply do not engage with this boss.

The best ability against him is molten blast for the sole reason that it is ranged and doesn't require 3 seconds to detonate.

The goal of the game is to be beaten without min/maxing and without forced multiplayer so until that's accomplished they need this kind of feedback

The video posted above shows how wrong you are.

It's just pure skill and recognition of boss patterns. No spongy HP bar, no one shots, nothing.

Know your skills, know the enemy boss pattern, and fix your build if its crap.

[Strongii]

Originally posted by LemonRush7777:

Originally posted by Strongii:

I'm sorry this a beta test and this is honest feedback.

I'm not talking about my own ability to beat the boss or not but anything bar molten strike spam is simply tedious.

It's not about easy or hard, it's about whether this is enjoyable and the options which are available to the warrior up until this point simply do not engage with this boss.

The best ability against him is molten blast for the sole reason that it is ranged and doesn't require 3 seconds to detonate.

The goal of the game is to be beaten without min/maxing and without forced multiplayer so until that's accomplished they need this kind of feedback

The video posted above shows how wrong you are.

It's just pure skill and recognition of boss patterns. No spongy HP bar, no one shots, nothing.

Know your skills, know the enemy boss pattern, and fix your build if its crap.

I even replied to that with my own kill vid but that still takes a few minutes of just spamming.

You're ignoring the point of it being possible isn't making it fun.

The boss being beatable doesn't make that an enjoyable experience.

How many attempts do you think it took for that one person to do it potless? Cause based on their cosmetics they seem to be a fan and like to sink a lot of time into the game.

Expecting that kind of dedication for the first major boss of the game when the end point of these games is the seasonal map challenges it's a smidge short sighted

[Ssin]

Originally posted by GodHead:

It's a build check and nothing more.

And gear setup, you right. Just farm some things from previous boss.

[LemonRush7777]

Originally posted by Strongii:

Originally posted by LemonRush7777:

The video posted above shows how wrong you are.

It's just pure skill and recognition of boss patterns. No spongy HP bar, no one shots, nothing.

Know your skills, know the enemy boss pattern, and fix your build if its crap.

I even replied to that with my own kill vid but that still takes a few minutes of just spamming.

You're ignoring the point of it being possible isn't making it fun.

The boss being beatable doesn't make that an enjoyable experience.

How many attempts do you think it took for that one person to do it plotless? Cause based on their cosmetics they seem to be a fan and like to sink a lot of time into the game.

Expecting that kind of dedication for the first major boss of the game when the end point of these games is the seasonal map challenges it's a smidge short sighted

The amount of time that it will take will depend on gear and build. If you feel like its taking too long, it could be time to check if you should respec or even farm a bit for more equipment.

It didn't take me as long as you did with Mercenary, though I admit I probably had more windows of opportunity to hit since the boss is always in range of some ranged skill.

I feel a hard challenge is appropriate for what is the end boss of an act, especially since in these kind of games, difficulty is usually on an inverse curve, as you start getting way too strong as you approach the middle of the game, with proper gear and better skills / ascendacy / whatever else.