Will early access carry over into full launch?

[Water]

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[SK]

Yesn't.

Your characters will go to an Early Access realm on launch, so you can keep playing if you like your character, but it cannot interact with launch characters on the new standard launch realm.

[Rogue]

No. They are dumped into a useless limbo league, GGG decided to laze it out and not put them into standard league which stores all your characters.

[Flolelan]

Originally posted by Rogue:

No. They are dumped into a useless limbo league, GGG decided to laze it out and not put them into standard league which stores all your characters.

well to be fair it "balances" the standard league on launch, so there is no real fomo if you dont buy early access.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Flolelan:

Originally posted by Rogue:

No. They are dumped into a useless limbo league, GGG decided to laze it out and not put them into standard league which stores all your characters.

well to be fair it "balances" the standard league on launch, so there is no real fomo if you dont buy early access.

What's there to balanced out in standard league, it's just a dumping ground for all characters and currencies gathered throughout various leagues where players may skip some. Why must you start from act 1 yet again from scratch, it's not even seasonal league. EA characters can be treated as another seasonal league worth of characters which excludes those who decided to skip it by not accepting the paywall for it. Same scenario. Just excuses for GGG and not doing their work to provide consistent gaming experience.

[Flolelan]

Originally posted by Rogue:

Originally posted by Flolelan:

well to be fair it "balances" the standard league on launch, so there is no real fomo if you dont buy early access.

What's there to balanced out in standard league, it's just a dumping ground for all characters and currencies gathered throughout various leagues where players may skip some. Why must you start from act 1 yet again from scratch, it's not even seasonal league. EA characters can be treated as another seasonal league worth of characters excluding those who decided to skip it by accepting the paywall for it.

cause casual players (which also did not buy in) do exist.

i also dont get it why they did take that aproach, but that seems to be the reason why it is how it is.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Flolelan:

Originally posted by Rogue:

What's there to balanced out in standard league, it's just a dumping ground for all characters and currencies gathered throughout various leagues where players may skip some. Why must you start from act 1 yet again from scratch, it's not even seasonal league. EA characters can be treated as another seasonal league worth of characters excluding those who decided to skip it by "not" accepting the paywall for it.

cause casual players (which also did not buy in) do exist.

Read my post carefully... I did have a few typos, but the gist is there.

[Flolelan]

Originally posted by Rogue:

Originally posted by Flolelan:

cause casual players (which also did not buy in) do exist.

Read my post carefully... I did have a few typos, but the gist is there.

i think they chose their aproach to delay the dead/inflated economy of standard league. see it that way: alot of people will not play the paid early access but they will play once its free to play. delaying the unavoidable infaltion 2-4 seasons will result in an way smother launch and 1st or 2nd season for standard in terms of economy and therefore help alot of casual players by not having an largly infalted/♥♥♥♥♥♥ economy from day 1.

its the same/simular reason why alot of players like to play on newer servers in other online games.

[Deadly]

Yea keeps the Balance for casual and hardcore players...

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Flolelan:

Originally posted by Rogue:

Read my post carefully... I did have a few typos, but the gist is there.

i think they chose their aproach to delay the dead/inflated economy of standard league. see it that way: alot of people will not play the paid early access but they will play once its free to play. delaying the unavoidable infaltion 2-4 seasons will result in an way smother launch and 1st or 2nd season for standard in terms of economy and therefore help alot of casual players by not having an largly infalted/♥♥♥♥♥♥ economy from day 1.

its the same/simular reason why alot of players like to play on newer servers in other online games.

Gaslit much...It's unavoiable, pointless to delay. Solution has always been there , play the seasonal league where it's all fresh and "balanced" for everyone.

There's no economy in standard, if you play poe 1 before , you'll know there will be stashes of same gear but different power level, legacy and new, and multiple changes to skill tree over the years. It's a permanent dumping ground, as resources keep accumulating and balances are pointless across eras of leagues due to all the changes. EA characters can be dumped into standard league just like any seasonal league or be treated as a "seasonal" league.

You are just rationalizing for GGG lack of consistency, since it's unavoidable. Everyone can just play the seasonal league for f2p launch where economy is fresh. What's more at f2p launch, you also won't have all the content, only up to act 6. So all this mumbo jumbo about inflation in standard is just pointless, just play the seasonal league.

But nope, GGG decides to dump all EA characters into a dead end/limbo league without non EA players or possibility of new future players to ever joining (tiny pool of a tiny shrinking pool), even more deader than the dumping ground that is standard league where few people will occasionally revisit.

[Flolelan]

Originally posted by Rogue:

Originally posted by Flolelan:

i think they chose their aproach to delay the dead/inflated economy of standard league. see it that way: alot of people will not play the paid early access but they will play once its free to play. delaying the unavoidable infaltion 2-4 seasons will result in an way smother launch and 1st or 2nd season for standard in terms of economy and therefore help alot of casual players by not having an largly infalted/♥♥♥♥♥♥ economy from day 1.

its the same/simular reason why alot of players like to play on newer servers in other online games.

Gaslit much...It's unavoiable, pointless to delay. Solution has always been there , play the seasonal league where it's all fresh and "balanced" for everyone.

There's no economy in standard, if you play poe 1 before , you'll know there will be stashes of same gear but different power level, legacy and new, and multiple changes to skill tree over the years. It's a permanent dumping ground, as resources keep accumulating and balances are pointless across eras of leagues due to all the changes. EA characters can be dumped into standard league just like any seasonal league or be treated as a "seasonal" league.

You are just rationalizing for GGG lack of consistency, since it's unavoidable. Everyone can just play the seasonal league for f2p launch where economy is fresh. What's more at f2p launch, you also won't have all the content, only up to act 6. So all this mumbo jumbo about inflation in standard is just pointless, just play the seasonal league.

correct me if im wrong: poe2 was never planed to have more than 6 acts no? all the infomaterial i looked at always showed act 1-6 then endgame. there was never a talk of 10acts like in poe1.

yes i agree there is no "real economy" in standard (or atleast there wasnt like after the 4th seasonal league) in poe1. however it just looks very very bad if the economy of your "new game" (1.0 f2p release) is ♥♥♥♥♥ day 1. it just isnt the greatest of pr.

as to your argument "just play seasonal on 1.0". doesnt matter if an casual plays seasonal and then gets thrown in an totally ♥♥♥♥♥ economy once the season ends cause ea had 6-12months worth of economy dumping.

to give an example:
new player joins on 1.0 => plays the campaign and needs 3months => seasonal league ends => player enters ♥♥♥♥♥ up economy => player is mad => player leaves.


i asume we both have played alot of poe1 but you also have to see the situation from the view of an totally new player or a casual.

[Everyone]

Casuals don't care about playing in standard league. They will play some of the campaign and will switch to another game.

[Flolelan]

Originally posted by Everyone:

Casuals don't care about playing in standard league. They will play some of the campaign and will switch to another game.

i know some people that disagree with you.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Flolelan:

Originally posted by Rogue:

Gaslit much...It's unavoiable, pointless to delay. Solution has always been there , play the seasonal league where it's all fresh and "balanced" for everyone.

There's no economy in standard, if you play poe 1 before , you'll know there will be stashes of same gear but different power level, legacy and new, and multiple changes to skill tree over the years. It's a permanent dumping ground, as resources keep accumulating and balances are pointless across eras of leagues due to all the changes. EA characters can be dumped into standard league just like any seasonal league or be treated as a "seasonal" league.

You are just rationalizing for GGG lack of consistency, since it's unavoidable. Everyone can just play the seasonal league for f2p launch where economy is fresh. What's more at f2p launch, you also won't have all the content, only up to act 6. So all this mumbo jumbo about inflation in standard is just pointless, just play the seasonal league.

correct me if im wrong: poe2 was never planed to have more than 6 acts no? all the infomaterial i looked at always showed act 1-6 then endgame. there was never a talk of 10acts like in poe1.

yes i agree there is no "real economy" in standard (or atleast there wasnt like after the 4th seasonal league) in poe1. however it just looks very very bad if the economy of your "new game" (1.0 f2p release) is ♥♥♥♥♥ day 1. it just isnt the greatest of pr.

as to your argument "just play seasonal on 1.0". doesnt matter if an casual plays seasonal and then gets thrown in an totally ♥♥♥♥♥ economy once the season ends cause ea had 6-12months worth of economy dumping.

to give an example:
new player joins on 1.0 => plays the campaign and needs 3months => seasonal league ends => player enters ♥♥♥♥♥ up economy => player is mad => player leaves.


i asume we both have played alot of poe1 but you also have to see the situation from the view of an totally new player or a casual.

Nope, I see you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

[D.A.R.K.]

Originally posted by Water:

Will early access carry over into full launch?
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Only cosmetics and conveniences, like stash tab, everything else will go to an Early Access Realm that you can access and play, but EA Realm is separated from Standard Realm and Seasonal Realm. Your character in EA Realm will be stuck in time, no new updates, no new fixes, nothing, you can play them but it's like playing the early access continuously.

If you want to experience the full release you'll have to play on Standard Realm or Seasonal Realm when seasons beginning.

[Legalizeit]

I have played poe for 10 years and only a handful of times have I even loaded up Standard realm.