the mapping system thats infinite, feels like last epochs MONOLITH of fate

[Delaborga]

they are also using an infinite mapping system where you can go in any directions forever with randomized layout and randomized objectives. is this the same ? it sure seems like it and im not a fan of that, obviously its more indepth here but its essentially the same

[FloRyu]

Seams interesting , LE Monolith system is a bit like the synthesis system from synthesis league. So both games took inspiration for each other.

[Hosenbund]

As long as it doesnt feel like its randomly generated AI nonsense im fine with it

It seems to be good in PoE2 though.

[elendil]

Why are you not a fan of it?
it is a map of infinite locations connected by paths
there will be ways to manipulate what you'll encounter and get on those locations
its randomized, but not totally random, more like an algorithm
despite it looking similiar visually, I don't see it having much in common with monolith, except for the basic similarity of it being maps connected by paths

[Valmar]

Originally posted by Delaborga:

they are also using an infinite mapping system where you can go in any directions forever with randomized layout and randomized objectives. is this the same ? it sure seems like it and im not a fan of that, obviously its more indepth here but its essentially the same

Feels like it, but properly done, imho.

[Delaborga]

Originally posted by elendil:

Why are you not a fan of it?
it is a map of infinite locations connected by paths
there will be ways to manipulate what you'll encounter and get on those locations
its randomized, but not totally random, more like an algorithm
despite it looking similiar visually, I don't see it having much in common with monolith, except for the basic similarity of it being maps connected by paths

because the map content in last epoch gets very boring and you start to see all its layouts quite fast, as well as the objectives are very limited, poe 1 had roughly 114 maps and all of them were unique maps with a different boss in it, i did like that more tbh :), if its INIFINITE i dont want to see the same objective after playing for 10 hours in its endgame :), handcrafted just FEELS better,

[DeadlyKitten]

Poe had a League that was like this before Last Epoch.
I just can't remember the name of it since it wasnt added to the game.

It had nodes to pick from and it was on a white-blue background

[elendil]

I agree with monoliths getting boring really fast. However as far as people told me poe 1 was getting boring as well with 1-button builds and nothing being able to kill you but oneshots.
There will be 100 handcrafted boss maps for full release + the pinnacle mechanic.
Normal maps don't sound bad either with 4+ different league mechanics (potentially overlapping), the ability to manipulate what kind of league mechancis you would like to encounter, a large atlas skill tree influencing the maps, special maps with specific spawn conditions, random features added to maps and especially monsters designed with interesting abilities.

[FloRyu]

Originally posted by DeadlyKitten:

Poe had a League that was like this before Last Epoch.
I just can't remember the name of it since it wasnt added to the game.

It had nodes to pick from and it was on a white-blue background

Yeah synthesis

[DeadlyKitten]

Originally posted by FloRyu:

Originally posted by DeadlyKitten:

Poe had a League that was like this before Last Epoch.
I just can't remember the name of it since it wasnt added to the game.

It had nodes to pick from and it was on a white-blue background

Yeah synthesis

Yup, and Last Epoch might have copied from POE1 XD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThYCp7bjDa0

[KillJoy]

I just hope this is not a game where 100 legendary items drop every hour. Looking forward to the game if it takes a whole week or more for a single legendary drop, and hopefully that drop is not for your class/build.

[gachi is manly]

Originally posted by KillJoy:

I just hope this is not a game where 100 legendary items drop every hour. Looking forward to the game if it takes a whole week or more for a single legendary drop, and hopefully that drop is not for your class/build.

Okay well, it's not going to be either of those. The game doesn't rain uniques on you D4-style. It also doesn't take a week to find one. There's definitely a happy medium in there somewhere.

[DeadlyKitten]

Originally posted by KillJoy:

I just hope this is not a game where 100 legendary items drop every hour. Looking forward to the game if it takes a whole week or more for a single legendary drop, and hopefully that drop is not for your class/build.

Well if you played POE1 without a filter...
Literal hundreds of them but the lowest tier possible XD.

[KillJoy]

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Originally posted by KillJoy:

I just hope this is not a game where 100 legendary items drop every hour. Looking forward to the game if it takes a whole week or more for a single legendary drop, and hopefully that drop is not for your class/build.

Okay well, it's not going to be either of those. The game doesn't rain uniques on you D4-style. It also doesn't take a week to find one. There's definitely a happy medium in there somewhere.

ok, well I do hope a unique or legendary drop increases my heart rate.

[KillJoy]

Originally posted by DeadlyKitten:

Originally posted by KillJoy:

I just hope this is not a game where 100 legendary items drop every hour. Looking forward to the game if it takes a whole week or more for a single legendary drop, and hopefully that drop is not for your class/build.

Well if you played POE1 without a filter...
Literal hundreds of them but the lowest tier possible XD.

That is not a good sign. I will have to try it out. Just hoping for some quality over quantity drops.

[TyresTyco]

No it's not really the same. In poe 2 you actually have things to do and stuff to farm in the maps.. also coupled with various former league systems / boss systems. LE's target farm grind is the worst of the genre.

LE has nothing. Only a boring net of the same maps over and over and over with the same garbage boss at the end of the timeline. LE's bosses are all absolutely garbage. These cant be compared even to poe 1 bosses imho. EHG is to scared to reward the player and you can feel it every single minute doing monos. Their broken faction system also doesnt help considering the devs are to incompetent to get rid of exploits forcing to reset the economy if something breaks again.

And no I didnt play their newest pinnacle boss system yet since the additions were far to meager for me to dig into LE again.

LE is the biggest disappointment next to diablo 4. The whole game is mostly just some illusion because the skill trees look interesting at first but after that.. everything quickly goes down the drain.