PoE 2 - Will it have Leagues like D4 Seasons?

[s1berain]

I'm new to POE, I was wondering if they will be doing the same and force people to play seasons and restart every x months just to play new content?

Anyone's advice would be fantastic!

I'm not one that doesnt like to restart every x months. (seasonal play isnt for me)

[AeolianSolas]

I would assume that if it's like PoE, yes they will have seasons, but no you aren't forced to do it. They put a high priority on maintaining the integrity of standard (aka eternal in D4), so that your characters remain valid and over time actually end up way stronger than anything you'd create in a season.

[s1berain]

Will you miss out on new content in standard like d4 ? D4 forces you to play seasons in order to play new content which is what i detest

[AeolianSolas]

Yes, you won't get the full experience of new content on standard. You have to play the seasons to experience the new content in its entirety, BUT, PoE does a much better job of selecting and keeping content from seasons in standard while adjusting it for balance. So you will often get some form of the new content in standard after the season.

(This is assuming they handle it the same way they do PoE 1).

[Husker]

Originally posted by AeolianSolas:

Yes, you won't get the full experience of new content on standard. You have to play the seasons to experience the new content in its entirety, BUT, PoE does a much better job of selecting and keeping content from seasons in standard while adjusting it for balance. So you will often get some form of the new content in standard after the season.

Thank you for that info. Just for clarification. Does previous season content makes it way in to standard then and not vanish like it does in Diablo 4. A lot of D4's seasonal content gets put in a vault and never seen again. Does POE do that too?

[AeolianSolas]

Originally posted by Husker:

Originally posted by AeolianSolas:

Yes, you won't get the full experience of new content on standard. You have to play the seasons to experience the new content in its entirety, BUT, PoE does a much better job of selecting and keeping content from seasons in standard while adjusting it for balance. So you will often get some form of the new content in standard after the season.

Thank you for that info. Just for clarification. Does previous season content makes it way in to standard then and not vanish like it does in Diablo 4. A lot of D4's seasonal content gets put in a vault and never seen again. Does POE do that too?

Yes and No, a lot of the seasonal content gets put into standard in some form or another after the season. Basically if people really enjoyed the season they adjust it in some way to maintain the integrity of balance in standard and then add it. If the season wasn't that well received they often let it go. A lot of the content comes back to the standard game in some form usually after a couple of seasons so that the devs can rework it. Long story short, not everything does, but a lot of it does and the devs do prioritize doing it to make the standard game continue to evolve.

[Cocofang]

You are not forced to play the seasons. That isn't the case in PoE1 either.

If you don't want to start over you can just play the permanent league. It will not have the current, new league mechanic, obviously. But core game changes will be there and previous leagues that are implemented will be available too.

Not to mention the huge balancing and often endgame changes will go into core with every major patch too. You have to differentiate between what is part of the core-changes, which affect the whole game, and what is the new league mechanic.

Think of it like this: Fresh temporary leagues are like contained test runs for brand new mechanics. They will gather data and feedback over the course of the league and afterwards they can decide if they want to implement it into the core game, how to adjust it, rework it or ditch it altogether.

So basically, if you don't want to play new leagues and start over every time, you can continue playing in the permanent realm and still get loads of new content with every major patch. Just not the one, new league mechanic that is currently being tested in the temporary league. You might get that later if GGG decides to implement it into core.

[DaDonik[GER]]

Originally posted by Husker:

Originally posted by AeolianSolas:

Yes, you won't get the full experience of new content on standard. You have to play the seasons to experience the new content in its entirety, BUT, PoE does a much better job of selecting and keeping content from seasons in standard while adjusting it for balance. So you will often get some form of the new content in standard after the season.

Thank you for that info. Just for clarification. Does previous season content makes it way in to standard then and not vanish like it does in Diablo 4. A lot of D4's seasonal content gets put in a vault and never seen again. Does POE do that too?

The seasonal leagues are like a filter. Only the refined stuff, sometimes none, goes to standard league.
So one could say the standard is the more refined game, but you might miss out on some wild stuff.

[s1berain]

thank you guys so much, it helps!!

[Husker]

Originally posted by AeolianSolas:

Originally posted by Husker:

Thank you for that info. Just for clarification. Does previous season content makes it way in to standard then and not vanish like it does in Diablo 4. A lot of D4's seasonal content gets put in a vault and never seen again. Does POE do that too?

Yes and No, a lot of the seasonal content gets put into standard in some form or another after the season. Basically if people really enjoyed the season they adjust it in some way to maintain the integrity of balance in standard and then add it. If the season wasn't that well received they often let it go. A lot of the content comes back to the standard game in some form usually after a couple of seasons so that the devs can rework it. Long story short, not everything does, but a lot of it does and the devs do prioritize doing it to make the standard game continue to evolve.

Thank you. I feel even this iteration of better than D4's where 99% of the stuff just gets shelved. Not to mentioned it seems there is more content to do so as a VERY casual gamer it would take me along time to even get through the base content. Would be nice to work up characters in standard too to see how powerful they can get.

[sdev09]

season mechanic is the worst. with so much content and chars you never need to reset anything

[gachi is manly]

Originally posted by s1berain:

Will you miss out on new content in standard like d4 ? D4 forces you to play seasons in order to play new content which is what i detest

So, it's a bit tricky, but better system than D4 seasons, IMO.

Basically you must make a new character to play in a new league (season) that introduces a new mechanic that the standard realm doesn't have. This league lasts for a limited time, then when it ends, your league character becomes standard.

Unlike D4, however, many league mechanics then make it to standard anyways at a later time. Usually they're added in a way that they're less of a focal point of the game, unlike in the league itself where the mechanic is found in every area and easier to interact with a lot.

So really, it's a bit of a weird yes/no on if you need to play seasonal leagues to play new content. If you're willing to wait, it makes it to standard anyways eventually.

[AeolianSolas]

Originally posted by Husker:

Originally posted by AeolianSolas:

Yes and No, a lot of the seasonal content gets put into standard in some form or another after the season. Basically if people really enjoyed the season they adjust it in some way to maintain the integrity of balance in standard and then add it. If the season wasn't that well received they often let it go. A lot of the content comes back to the standard game in some form usually after a couple of seasons so that the devs can rework it. Long story short, not everything does, but a lot of it does and the devs do prioritize doing it to make the standard game continue to evolve.

Thank you. I feel even this iteration of better than D4's where 99% of the stuff just gets shelved. Not to mentioned it seems there is more content to do so as a VERY casual gamer it would take me along time to even get through the base content. Would be nice to work up characters in standard too to see how powerful they can get.

You're welcome, one of the reasons I quit D4 (among many) was that they treated their eternal realms really terribly. Nerfing their gear and not transitioning season content in any meaningful way. I think D4 is designed to force you to play seasons to buy battle passes, and forces you to buy expansions to even continue playing the game. PoE is not like that at all, and at least for PoE 1, if you casually play you'll have hundreds if not thousands of hours of content to explore in just standard if you really get into it. So to sum it all up, if you just want to play one character, you can, and you'll keep getting new content as it's added to standard for free forever. Hope that helps!

[Pushet]

Originally posted by Husker:

Originally posted by AeolianSolas:

Yes, you won't get the full experience of new content on standard. You have to play the seasons to experience the new content in its entirety, BUT, PoE does a much better job of selecting and keeping content from seasons in standard while adjusting it for balance. So you will often get some form of the new content in standard after the season.

Thank you for that info. Just for clarification. Does previous season content makes it way in to standard then and not vanish like it does in Diablo 4. A lot of D4's seasonal content gets put in a vault and never seen again. Does POE do that too?

A very important thing to note in PoE1: GGG had a habbit of doing at least 1 "expansion" a year, where they massively overhauled systems in endgame and adding lots of new content. These expansions were always on top of the leagues, which means, that they were also immediatly available to play in the "standard" realm (aka eternal).

On top of it, older leagues were often reintroduced 1-2 leagues later, and I believe each league launch also had stuff for standard, even if it wasnt an expansion.

So if you decide to stick to standard, then youd still receive new content in expansions, but also little drops each time a new league with a new patch starts.

[MeatBag]

Force people to play leagues?

People play poe literally for that reason, new league with new content and fresh start, very few people find any interest in playing same minmaxed character with no goal. Character progression is like one of main reasons you even play it. If you play on standard/perma server, you max you character and then what, grind for no reason? it will get boring rly fast

VERY few people play on permanent (standard) server, you can too, but idk why.

[Tyrone Biggums]

Originally posted by s1berain:

I'm new to POE, I was wondering if they will be doing the same and force people to play seasons and restart every x months just to play new content?

Anyone's advice would be fantastic!

I'm not one that doesnt like to restart every x months. (seasonal play isnt for me)

yes but they wont start for a while so nows the best time to learn the game