removing regional pricing...

[EXODOPLAYS]

what a scumbag move man cmon, theres more countries in the world outside of the US. What a way to spit on your customers faces.

[Deviant]

the scumbag move is the people who change IP with vpn to buy support packs for cheaper

[Hussar]

Originally posted by Deviant:

the scumbag move is the people who change IP with vpn to buy support packs for cheaper

Not only that. They buy cheap 10usd pack on POE website and then sell for 20-30usd online. All the packs from Poe website come with steam key.
They buy with vpn in cheap region and then sell online.

https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/en-us/buy-path-of-exile-2-cd-key-compare-prices/

https://gg.deals/game/path-of-exile-2/

https://gocdkeys.com/buy-path-of-exile-2-pc-cd-key

[Cocofang]

Originally posted by Rocko:

based on the amount of money that many influencer/game-devs have shown which countries contribute the most of their income it is generally countries with weaker economies, even if the individual price of the game is lesser, the amount of people that do purchases makes up for it

I call BS.

That's the same sort of story that people always tell when they want to make devs commit to localisations for whatever minor language they speak.

[Snapydubi]

Funny enough the Epic Store haves the same packs $7 cheaper...

[bloodytolits]

Scumbag move.

The problem is they introduced regional pricing then suddenly removed it without any warning. No official statements/explanations too as of this writing. Feels bad paying double the price. Wouldn't be as pissed if those who payed half the price also gets half the coins(or have to pay the full price) but oh well probably gonna skip this and just wait for the full release. I don't even complain about $70 games but what they did here just made me feel like I was cheated lol.

[Thunder]

There is a relatively easy fix. If you do not allow credit cards from any other country or digital cards to work for the purchase, VPN is no longer an option. Only people who would use an elaborate method, like finding a local person with new accounts and going through international transactions, could pull that off. That is not up to GGG, steam did that for Turkey for a while Idk what's the status now. However, I realized the local price for Turkey is still the same so maybe it is still in effect. If you'd get 5 Turkish players for 100 dollars pack you'd get 50 for 40 dollar pack it is worth localizing prices.

[m99noble]

Originally posted by Jaqqour:

Originally posted by m99noble:

It doesnt make it worse for me. I can afford it because i work for a living. It is the principle of the matter. We are all paying for the same digital content. Why should we pay different prices for the same product?

You make 40 an hour USD
I make 20 an hour USD
John makes 10 an hour USD

We all walk into a grocery store to get Q-Tips. Because you make more money should they charge you more for the Q-Tips?

You do realise that some countries have significantly lower incomes then others right? regional pricing does not hurt you, it just means more people can enjoy the game around the world. If your salty that other people are spending a comparative amount of money to you based on their currency and their countries average income/buying power then that is just really really sad.

Look at it this way, in a overly simplified example

1. Assume the $100 USD pack is 1% of your countries typical yearly income, lets assume USA.

2. Regional pricing means that Steve in Turkey can also spend 1% of his countries typical yearly income to access and enjoy the game.

3. You are getting angry that Steve is not paying 20% of his yearly income.

Regional pricing is fine, as long as its not exploited and companies are willing to do it - more people get to enjoy the games.

Everything you wrote there is irrelevant. Again it is the principle of the matter: Steve and I go into the grocery in turkey or the usa and get a loaf of bread. we are both going to be paying the same price for a loaf of bread BECAUSE it is the SAME loaf of bread. It is not my fault that people are poor or live in poor countries. It is not my fault Steve's yearly income is so low. Maybe Steve should look into other ways to make more money to increase his yearly income so he can afford more things that he wants in life instead of living pay check to pay check.

Regional pricing is literally just video game welfare advocacy. Instead of wasting time and money of pointless video games, maybe poor people should focus on self betterment and enrichment so they dont stay poor.

[m99noble]

Originally posted by SalsaDeGranada:

Originally posted by m99noble:

It doesnt make it worse for me. I can afford it because i work for a living. It is the principle of the matter. We are all paying for the same digital content. Why should we pay different prices for the same product?

You make 40 an hour USD
I make 20 an hour USD
John makes 10 an hour USD

We all walk into a grocery store to get Q-Tips. Because you make more money should they charge you more for the Q-Tips?

basically you're saying that people from poorer regions should have to pay a comparatively higher percentage of their incomes because you feel bad when they get to afford things, since you yourself said that regional pricing doesn't make it worse for you

No. Not because i feel bad. Because we are paying for the same product. We should all be paying the same cost. Again...if we both walk into a store and you have more money than me would it be right for the store to charge you more for the same product I am buying because you have more money? Simple yes or no. In a sane and rational world the answer is No.

[Hussar]

We pay higher mtx prices to keep the servers running in 3rd world countries. The devs get less money to keep the servers running in countries that only pay 1/3, 10-15 USD and to make up for the loss we pay higher prices. Its welfare for poorer countries and the consumer in 1st world countries pays the bill.

[Snapydubi]

Originally posted by Hussar:

We pay higher mtx prices to keep the servers running in 3rd world countries. The devs get less money to keep the servers running in countries that only pay 1/3, 10-15 USD and to make up for the loss we pay higher prices. Its welfare for poorer countries and the consumer in 1st world countries pays the bill.

Clown

[Coltemonikha]

Originally posted by Hussar:

We pay higher mtx prices to keep the servers running in 3rd world countries. The devs get less money to keep the servers running in countries that only pay 1/3, 10-15 USD and to make up for the loss we pay higher prices. Its welfare for poorer countries and the consumer in 1st world countries pays the bill.

You're absolutely right, GGG should just restrict access to 3rd world countries entirely, since it makes no sense to tank a loss. That way, you guys get to pay cheaper since only you guys would be using the server.

/s

[SalsaDeGranada]

Originally posted by m99noble:

Originally posted by Jaqqour:

You do realise that some countries have significantly lower incomes then others right? regional pricing does not hurt you, it just means more people can enjoy the game around the world. If your salty that other people are spending a comparative amount of money to you based on their currency and their countries average income/buying power then that is just really really sad.

Look at it this way, in a overly simplified example

1. Assume the $100 USD pack is 1% of your countries typical yearly income, lets assume USA.

2. Regional pricing means that Steve in Turkey can also spend 1% of his countries typical yearly income to access and enjoy the game.

3. You are getting angry that Steve is not paying 20% of his yearly income.

Regional pricing is fine, as long as its not exploited and companies are willing to do it - more people get to enjoy the games.

Everything you wrote there is irrelevant. Again it is the principle of the matter: Steve and I go into the grocery in turkey or the usa and get a loaf of bread. we are both going to be paying the same price for a loaf of bread BECAUSE it is the SAME loaf of bread. It is not my fault that people are poor or live in poor countries. It is not my fault Steve's yearly income is so low. Maybe Steve should look into other ways to make more money to increase his yearly income so he can afford more things that he wants in life instead of living pay check to pay check.

Regional pricing is literally just video game welfare advocacy. Instead of wasting time and money of pointless video games, maybe poor people should focus on self betterment and enrichment so they dont stay poor.

that's not how prices work ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, even for bread it would be priced differently in different countries

[m99noble]

Originally posted by SalsaDeGranada:

Originally posted by m99noble:

Everything you wrote there is irrelevant. Again it is the principle of the matter: Steve and I go into the grocery in turkey or the usa and get a loaf of bread. we are both going to be paying the same price for a loaf of bread BECAUSE it is the SAME loaf of bread. It is not my fault that people are poor or live in poor countries. It is not my fault Steve's yearly income is so low. Maybe Steve should look into other ways to make more money to increase his yearly income so he can afford more things that he wants in life instead of living pay check to pay check.

Regional pricing is literally just video game welfare advocacy. Instead of wasting time and money of pointless video games, maybe poor people should focus on self betterment and enrichment so they dont stay poor.

that's not how prices work ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, even for bread it would be priced differently in different countries

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Yes. But if Steve and I are buying the same bread from the same VENDOR the price would be the same. Steve cannot walk into a Walmart in Dallas Texas and they charge him a different price for the bread than they charge me because he is from Turkey. Similarly I cannot go to a baker in Istanbul in Turkey and get charged a different price for the bread just because i am from America. You, dummy, are missing the point entirely. Steve and I are paying for the same product so le price of the product should be the same price. When it comes to digital goods, why would the price change based upon country? It is the same digital product.

[Rogue Admiral]

When I saw one of these posts, whether it was on Reddit, the Path of Exile forum, or now on Steam, all the people who are mad about this are planning to buy at least the Ogham Pack but mostly the Faridun Pack, and no one ever mentions the $30 pack. So, all the crying about minimum wage, etc., is nonsense. Maybe it’s your neighbor, maybe it’s someone else entirely, but clearly not you. You already have the money just want higher tier pack with it.

[SalsaDeGranada]

Originally posted by Rogue Admiral:

When I saw one of these posts, whether it was on Reddit, the Path of Exile forum, or now on Steam, all the people who are mad about this are planning to buy at least the Ogham Pack but mostly the Faridun Pack, and no one ever mentions the $30 pack. So, all the crying about minimum wage, etc., is nonsense. Maybe it’s your neighbor, maybe it’s someone else entirely, but clearly not you. You already have the money just want higher tier pack with it.

I've seen a lot of comments about getting into it with their friends, who were talking about the $30 pack, so that's wrong. I was going to get that pack, if you want me to bring up someone in particular.