Path of Exile 2

Path of Exile 2

D.A.R.K. Nov 23, 2024 @ 12:09pm
How Dangerous Chaos Damage is?
So... The reveal video shows a keystone node from the skill tree that makes your maximum health 1, and gives you immunity to Chaos Damage... What's the difference between the other type of damage?
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Nyanko Nov 23, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
Chaos damage bypasses energy shield and targets health directly unless you have a defensive layer to mitigate it, it's not the most common damage type but some monsters/bosses/mods will have it and you'll notice it for sure since it's harder to build against compared to elemental damage or physical
KoV Nov 23, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
Overall you have

Armour vs phys
Fire Ice Lightning = elemental
chaos = chaos and damage over time poisons
Also chaos normally bypasses energy shield
Do chaos immunity just means you need to go full into armour ele resists get high energy shield and just bypass anything chaos related which cuts out 1 out of 5 damage types

So next is getting enough damage mitigation VS your damage output to beat everything
Thats it in short but im sure some others might explain it better
D.A.R.K. Nov 23, 2024 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by Nyanko:
Chaos damage bypasses energy shield and targets health directly unless you have a defensive layer to mitigate it, it's not the most common damage type but some monsters/bosses/mods will have it and you'll notice it for sure since it's harder to build against compared to elemental damage or physical
Does it ignore armor? It feels like a true damage.
Thanks.
D.A.R.K. Nov 23, 2024 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by KoV:
Overall you have

Armour vs phys
Fire Ice Lightning = elemental
chaos = chaos and damage over time poisons
Also chaos normally bypasses energy shield
Do chaos immunity just means you need to go full into armour ele resists get high energy shield and just bypass anything chaos related which cuts out 1 out of 5 damage types

So next is getting enough damage mitigation VS your damage output to beat everything
Thats it in short but im sure some others might explain it better
Wait... Poison DOT deals damage directly to health ignoring shield?
KoV Nov 23, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:
Originally posted by KoV:
Overall you have

Armour vs phys
Fire Ice Lightning = elemental
chaos = chaos and damage over time poisons
Also chaos normally bypasses energy shield
Do chaos immunity just means you need to go full into armour ele resists get high energy shield and just bypass anything chaos related which cuts out 1 out of 5 damage types

So next is getting enough damage mitigation VS your damage output to beat everything
Thats it in short but im sure some others might explain it better
Wait... Poison DOT deals damage directly to health ignoring shield?

All chaos damage ignores energy shield normally
Some nodes/keystones/items change this but overall best is either

Take no chaos damage or item/node that says it doesnt bypass shield or takes from mana first

Theres enough options in poe1 and feel like poe2 will also have loads of build options
Numa Nov 23, 2024 @ 12:27pm 
It's a node useful for energy shield builds, because their biggest weakness is chaos damage which ignores their shield and directly targets the health.
T.E.W.S Nov 23, 2024 @ 12:54pm 
90% of my deaths are from chaos damage/poison cause im too dumb to look where i stand
KoV Nov 23, 2024 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by T.E.W.S:
90% of my deaths are from chaos damage/poison cause im too dumb to look where i stand
You sure its not burning ground or shocked XD
Have that problem as well
max.Bro Jan 14 @ 8:56am 
Poison ignore énergie shield
Chaos deal double dommage to énergie shield
Bleed Apply only if your being hit in Life

So chaos inoculation make you immune to chaos poison
And if something bleed you, it mean, you dont have any ES left,
So you die
Baron01 Jan 14 @ 9:03am 
Originally posted by D.A.R.K.:
So... The reveal video shows a keystone node from the skill tree that makes your maximum health 1, and gives you immunity to Chaos Damage... What's the difference between the other type of damage?
Chaos is probably most dangerous during campaign as Chaos damage, especially ground effects with it, is plentiful and you have limited access to gear. Chaos damage and chaos resistance is treated differently in PoE2 compared to PoE1.
Chaos resistance was nice to have bonus in PoE1 when you were above 0% at end-game. You would be absolutely fine with 20% or 30% Chaos resistance at T15 maps and you could always use utility flasks to deal with some outlier situations.
Chaos resistance in PoE2 is pretty much the same as any other elemental resistance and you are expected to have it at 75% or higher when you are at end-game. Chaos damage is just another damage type that is common in the game and not having your resistance at 75% puts you in jeopardy. You can probably survive in white tier maps, level 1 through 5, with 40% or so as long as you have enough EHP but going higher will get you killed more and more often.
Tertiary Jan 14 @ 9:03am 
Chaos damage does not ignore ES, it does double-damage to ES.

The Poison ailment does Chaos damage over time, it does not bypass ES.

The Bleed ailment does Physical damage over time. It cannot be inflicted on a character with ES... but, once your ES runs out, and the damage applies to your health you gain the ailment... and once you have the ailment it damages your health directly even if your ES recharges. Also, if the damage applies to your mana (because of Mind of Matter) you will not gain bleed -- the damage has to apply to your health to gain the ailment.

You guys are thinking of the PoE1 mechanics. PoE2 is different. :)
Well, if map mod has monsters do increased chaos dmg, they do crazy dmg. Probably because you can only have 75% chaos res, while other elemental res can be 90%. So I don't run chaos damage mods.

If you only have like 30 chaos res, volatile plants will do about 1.8k dmg at around tier 11, so basically oneshot.
Last edited by RawMeatDiet; Jan 14 @ 9:12am
Balekai Jan 14 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by Tertiary:
Chaos damage does not ignore ES, it does double-damage to ES.

The Poison ailment does Chaos damage over time, it does not bypass ES.

The Bleed ailment does Physical damage over time. It cannot be inflicted on a character with ES... but, once your ES runs out, and the damage applies to your health you gain the ailment... and once you have the ailment it damages your health directly even if your ES recharges. Also, if the damage applies to your mana (because of Mind of Matter) you will not gain bleed -- the damage has to apply to your health to gain the ailment.

You guys are thinking of the PoE1 mechanics. PoE2 is different. :)

This.

In Path of Exile 2, no damage channel bypasses Energy Shield fixing a lot of issues with it. However, the double damage to ES from Chaos Damage is very dangerous to ES heavy characters without Chaos Inoculation (CI). A bit better now with some chaos damage one shots late game being nerfed.

So practically a Chaos Inoculated character with high ES is immune to all Chaos Damage, Poison and never bleeds since they die anyways once they lose that single 1 life.

Outside of CI, in order to combat chaos damage you need to up your chaos resistance, unless you have a notable/capstone, item or ascendancy mechanic that uses something else like Armour for mitigating Chaos Damage.
Last edited by Balekai; Jan 14 @ 9:18am
Sythalin Jan 14 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by KoV:
Overall you have

Armour vs nothing, mostly useless stat

Fixed for accuracy. There's a reason why evasion/ES is meta right now.
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Date Posted: Nov 23, 2024 @ 12:09pm
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