Cuphead

Cuphead

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Baalf Jan 4, 2018 @ 4:52am
I feel like this isn't what I wanted...
I've been waiting FOREVER for that amazing, award winning game staring an incredibly likeable character, and most games now adays are overrated and star typical gary-stu humans, and I've been waiting for that likeable non-human in an award winning game.

...I just don't feel like Cuphead is that character. He's not some cool animal or monster: he's a cup. That's not really cool or likeable. It's creative, but is creativity always going to win the day? I feel like I'd rather have a simple, likeable design than one that's merely creative. It feels more random than anything else. I mean, I'm glad we get a game with a non-human star and all, but that's about the only thing I like about Cuphead's character, really: he's not human. ...That, and he's jolly looking, but other then that the idea of an anthropomorphic cup just seems dumb.

Deep down, part of me wants this game, but part of me can't help but feel silly about playing a game staring a cup after so many games staring anthros and monsters got bad scores. I mean, I'm glad to see this won two steam awards over a few games staring humans, but... I don't know, he's a CUP. I still feel like I'd rather play as a cartoon cat or a dragon or something more organic.
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Hypothermia Jan 4, 2018 @ 11:12am 
I really don't understand what kind of struggle you're having here. Why the design of the protagonist matters that much? I mean, I have preferences too but that doesn't stop me from trying out the gameplay.
Baalf Jan 4, 2018 @ 12:51pm 
Because, now adays, I've hated most videogame protagonists. In addition, those games also have villains I end up liking a lot more, which makes me NOT want to fight them as the character I'm playing as, and effects how fun the game is for me. There's also games that have a very shallow "Only humans can be good" feel to them, and I hate seeing this. I feel like people judge someone for disliking something for asthetical reasons, but maybe they just don't understand why that person feels so strongly about something.

...So that being said, I'm only really indifferent about Cuphead as a character. Part of me likes the fact he's jolly and not human, and he's certainly more charming than Hat Girl or most video game stars now adays, yet another part of me dislikes the randomness of the idea of an anthropomorphic cup. Yeah, it's creative, but is it cool? Not really. Some day, I may play this game and if I like it it may change how I feel to an extent, but I can't help but feel divided.
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Mr Compassionate Jan 4, 2018 @ 1:08pm 
'In addition, those games also have villains I end up liking a lot more'
King Dice is that guy for me.
OpaquePlacebo Jan 4, 2018 @ 1:17pm 
Have you tried playing as Mugman? He may be more your style
Baalf Jan 4, 2018 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by OpaquePlacebo:
Have you tried playing as Mugman? He may be more your style

Isn't he just Cuphead but blue and bigger eyes (or something)? I'd be more interested in a cat or a mouse playable, to be honest.
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GrimAtrament Jan 4, 2018 @ 2:00pm 
Originally posted by MugoUrth:
I' I've been waiting for that likeable non-human in an award winning game.
try Styx: Master of Shadows then

http://store.steampowered.com/app/242640/Styx_Master_of_Shadows/
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OpaquePlacebo Jan 4, 2018 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by MugoUrth:
Originally posted by OpaquePlacebo:
Have you tried playing as Mugman? He may be more your style

Isn't he just Cuphead but blue and bigger eyes? I'd be more interested in a cat or a mouse playable, to be honest.

They mention how they wanted to create a unique character that didn't adhere to what most gaming companies have nowadays. So animal type characters have been OVERLYYYY used since the beginning.

I think the idea behind Cuphead is great.
Baalf Jan 4, 2018 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by OpaquePlacebo:
Originally posted by MugoUrth:

Isn't he just Cuphead but blue and bigger eyes? I'd be more interested in a cat or a mouse playable, to be honest.

They mention how they wanted to create a unique character that didn't adhere to what most gaming companies have nowadays. So animal type characters have been OVERLYYYY used since the beginning.

I think the idea behind Cuphead is great.

Not nearly as much as humans, though. And I appreciate the idea of wanting to be different. I really do. I wonder if I'd like a type of food more. I could see a fruit or food-based playable in this game.
DP9A Jan 4, 2018 @ 3:51pm 
This kind of characters were really common in the 30's-40's era cartoons. Of course it's silly, cartoons, specially those cartoons, were really silly. And how are humans overused? Of course they usually are the main characters, they're the most common thing in the world.
NeutroDevice Jan 4, 2018 @ 3:51pm 
I'll be fun if someday someone made a character mod to play as Mickey or something.

I think you are just thinking way too much about it. The characters are cups, theres no more to it. They are ment to be just the playable characters, what are you looking for exactly on these characters?, more depth to them? im sorry to say but, the game's focus is on its mechanics and its graphic design.
Baalf Jan 4, 2018 @ 5:06pm 
Originally posted by DP9A:
This kind of characters were really common in the 30's-40's era cartoons. Of course it's silly, cartoons, specially those cartoons, were really silly. And how are humans overused? Of course they usually are the main characters, they're the most common thing in the world.

I always see this argument and similar, I just don't feel we should be the ONLY goodguys so often, nor shoud the main star being human be a requirement.




Originally posted by NeutroDevice:
I'll be fun if someday someone made a character mod to play as Mickey or something.

I think you are just thinking way too much about it. The characters are cups, theres no more to it. They are ment to be just the playable characters, what are you looking for exactly on these characters?, more depth to them? im sorry to say but, the game's focus is on its mechanics and its graphic design.

I don't know. I guess maybe something a bit cooler? I still want to play this game, though, as I admire it's originality. Maybe I just want to see more games with anthros in them, being an anthro fan? This isn't really a game staring an anthro character I'll love, nor is it a game staring a generic human. It's just... somewhere in the middle, I guess. I'm not slamming the game, and due to its popularity I wouldn't be surprised if there was DLC in the future, and maybe a few new characters, though I expect food and more tableware before I expect an anima or a monster.

Actually, I tend to like tanky-looking characters a lot. Maybe a tanky-teapot or something would fit me better.
AlmightyDunkle Jan 4, 2018 @ 5:44pm 
Maybe some Cuphead r34 will change your mind lmao.

In all seriousness though this seems like a weird complaint to not play a game. Don’t worry though because most of the time you’ll be looking at the bosses instead of Cuphead. And by golly there’s only two human characters in the entire game.
Cuphead is more about the gameplay and the art instead of characters/development.
LightSnake Jan 4, 2018 @ 7:25pm 
".I just don't feel like Cuphead is that character. He's not some cool animal or monster: he's a cup. "

The way my imagination reconciles with the character is to accept him as something very /opposite/ to a cool monster; he represents something weak facing near impossible odds. He's just a tiny delicate fragile object, a bit of porcelain, we hear cracking sounds whenever he takes damage. He's the last thing you'd expect to be a hero, facing ghouls and dragons. But he must.

An example of this same sort of mood in fiction would be the Lord of the Rings...a whole world of fabulous beasts and wizards, but the hero is a half-size Hobbit from the sticks who has to go to Mordor.

TL;DR: Maybe he is un-cool, but for a cool reason?
RocketPotatoL62 Jan 4, 2018 @ 9:22pm 
Originally posted by LightSnake:
".I just don't feel like Cuphead is that character. He's not some cool animal or monster: he's a cup. "

The way my imagination reconciles with the character is to accept him as something very /opposite/ to a cool monster; he represents something weak facing near impossible odds. He's just a tiny delicate fragile object, a bit of porcelain, we hear cracking sounds whenever he takes damage. He's the last thing you'd expect to be a hero, facing ghouls and dragons. But he must.

An example of this same sort of mood in fiction would be the Lord of the Rings...a whole world of fabulous beasts and wizards, but the hero is a half-size Hobbit from the sticks who has to go to Mordor.

TL;DR: Maybe he is un-cool, but for a cool reason?
I was actually kind of surprised by how well cuphead can hold his own.
Hypothermia Jan 4, 2018 @ 11:35pm 
I see it a bit. So, you kinda want a character that is not only well designed but also well-executed. By a well-executed character, I meant the character that works out well, mechanism-wise and story-wise. That's a really brilliant character you know, it's not my business but you really should give human characters a chance, because a well-executed character is much rarer than a well designed character. To find them, you can't be picky. It's something you wouldn't know until you play it.

For cuphead, I'd say it's not too good but not too bad at this. Because obviously this is not a game focused on narrative and such, but the main characters aren't just cups. They're cups that one's souls are on debt that also work as devil's debt collectors. They save their own lives by pretty much taking away everyone else's. That's really morbid for a silly nonsense cartoon that everything comes to life.
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