Is there a way/cheat to skip that effing robot?

[kaqqao]

Ok, so I defeated all the bosses save for the robot (and the devil, I guess). The design of the robot boss is nothing short of moronic. There's more projectiles than screen, huge foreground objects block the visibility for no reason at all, constant stream of projectiles come from behind where it's impossible to shoot at them etc. Only two bosses in the game I believe were unfair (where I felt they're difficult not because they're difficult but because the design is just stupid): the mermaid and the robot. The mermaid is easy to defeat, so I didn't care too much, but the robot is driving me insane. The only way for me to do anything is to try enough times until the randomness decides to give me an opening, and that's neither interesting nor pleasurable.
So, is there some cheat/trainer/hack/whatever to allow me to bypass this boss?

[terr0rble]

Try coffee. Also, go mini more too avoid those bullets. When he stops using the crystal get a bit closer to him.

[kaqqao]

Thanks for the advice, but at this point I'm really just looking for a way to bypass him altogether. If there's no such thing, I'll rather drop the game than keep facing him.

[Bleid]

there's a certain glitch though.

[terr0rble]

Originally posted by wingedoracle:

there's a certain glitch though.

Oh yeah I just remembered!

[terr0rble]

Go to around 17:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwnbWIarOFo

[Bleid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaIpNQdOc60

[Pom Pom 🍕]

If you go to your save file located in C:\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Roaming\Cuphead and open it in notepad you can find the robot at: "levelID":1452935394 and change "completed" to true and difficultyBeaten to 1.

[Codester]

Originally posted by kaqqao:

Ok, so I defeated all the bosses save for the robot (and the devil, I guess). The design of the robot boss is nothing short of moronic. There's more projectiles than screen, huge foreground objects block the visibility for no reason at all, constant stream of projectiles come from behind where it's impossible to shoot at them etc. Only two bosses in the game I believe were unfair (where I felt they're difficult not because they're difficult but because the design is just stupid): the mermaid and the robot. The mermaid is easy to defeat, so I didn't care too much, but the robot is driving me insane. The only way for me to do anything is to try enough times until the randomness decides to give me an opening, and that's neither interesting nor pleasurable.
So, is there some cheat/trainer/hack/whatever to allow me to bypass this boss?

What? Robot is easy bro. Take out the head laser before it fires a single time. Bombs can destroy Both middle and bottom at the exact same time. Heart is easy, you can completely skip phase two if you hammer him and use a super before it flies off screen. Last phase is simple dodging while attacking, then nuking him at rest periods. If you aren't used to the slight movements you need to dodge stay in mini and attack at rest spots only to be safe until you get better.

[Moe Magi Maxima]

Originally posted by kaqqao:

Ok, so I defeated all the bosses save for the robot (and the devil, I guess). The design of the robot boss is nothing short of moronic. There's more projectiles than screen, huge foreground objects block the visibility for no reason at all, constant stream of projectiles come from behind where it's impossible to shoot at them etc. Only two bosses in the game I believe were unfair (where I felt they're difficult not because they're difficult but because the design is just stupid): the mermaid and the robot. The mermaid is easy to defeat, so I didn't care too much, but the robot is driving me insane. The only way for me to do anything is to try enough times until the randomness decides to give me an opening, and that's neither interesting nor pleasurable.
So, is there some cheat/trainer/hack/whatever to allow me to bypass this boss?

...So... anyone wanna tell him? ...No? Well, then...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BulletHell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmw2eeLooyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8NqOetHdDc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIxKjmrCrS4

Edit: Wow, Touhou has a lot more Fighting games than I realized. 0_o

[Pom Pom 🍕]

Also want to point out that dumb design doesn't necessarily mean "unfair difficulty". The robot is one of the least punishing bosses in the game since it's very light on the rng. It doesn't throw anything unexpected at you either (unless you count phase 2's start where you're supposed to get away from the head going crazy, which isn't always obvious, but only matters the first time anyway). Once you start the boss and see each attack you should be able to make up a strategy for what to do since it always plays the same way, except his hand switching between magnet and stretching itself out shooting bullets after you destroy the core. You can even pause the game after seeing the boss for 2-3s, then draw up a plan.

He's probably the closest to bullet hell bosses from typical schmups like Hat Kid linked, except way easier. The other ones are a lot more rng, which is less common in those type of games.

Unfair difficulty is when a game throws things at the player that they had no way to dodge or had gotten any indication of was coming. Like if you jump over a death pit and suddenly a bird spawns in front of you, or the game designers puts an enemy to the side of a door entrance so you'll be attacked instantly when entering it the first time, or there's an invisible block above where you jump that forces you down a death pit.

Some cuphead bosses can be unfair the first time you see a certain attack (bee's bullet attack when she spawns in the middle, bluto's giant laser, hilda and robot head swooping quickly to the left), but the game gives you 3 hp and don't instakill you with the attacks, and when you get back to the attack again you'll know what to do, which makes them possible at first try. Unfair bosses in vdoe games will generally instakill you even at full health, some even during their final phases or throw attacks at you with no indication what you should have done to dodge it. The robot does not, and he's very predictable without the trial and errors of games like battletoads and ninja gaiden, which are very unfair games.

[Moe Magi Maxima]

Originally posted by Pomikuza!:

Also want to point out that dumb design doesn't necessarily mean "unfair difficulty". The robot is one of the least punishing bosses in the game since it's very light on the rng. It doesn't throw anything unexpected at you either (unless you count phase 2's start where you're supposed to get away from the head going crazy, which isn't always obvious, but only matters the first time anyway). Once you start the boss and see each attack you should be able to make up a strategy for what to do since it always plays the same way, except his hand switching between magnet and stretching itself out shooting bullets after you destroy the core. You can even pause the game after seeing the boss for 2-3s, then draw up a plan.

He's probably the closest to bullet hell bosses from typical schmups like Hat Kid linked, except way easier. The other ones are a lot more rng, which is less common in those type of games.

Unfair difficulty is when a game throws things at the player that they had no way to dodge or had gotten any indication of was coming. >Like if you jump over a death pit and suddenly a bird spawns in front of you, or the game designers puts an enemy to the side of a door entrance so you'll be attacked instantly when entering it the first time, or there's an invisible block above where you jump that forces you down a death pit.<

Some cuphead bosses can be unfair the first time you see a certain attack (bee's bullet attack when she spawns in the middle, bluto's giant laser, hilda and robot head swooping quickly to the left), but the game gives you 3 hp and don't instakill you with the attacks, and when you get back to the attack again you'll know what to do, which makes them possible at first try. Unfair bosses in vdoe games will generally instakill you even at full health, some even during their final phases or throw attacks at you with no indication what you should have done to dodge it. The robot does not, and he's very predictable without the trial and errors of games like battletoads and ninja gaiden, which are very unfair games.

Bracket: Ninja Gaiden, Ocarina of Time Master Quest, most Mario romhacks to include Lost Levels. I take it the first and third were what you were referring to, probably not the second (closest thing I could think of, as there is a Gibdo waiting on the other side of one door, but surprise factor aside, you can get away from it more easily than you'd think).

As for the unfair boss bit, I want to add "required bosses that use one last very powerful attack on your party when their health hits zero". Most notably, the Chimera in Arc Rise Fantasia, which combines this with rare random equipment drop that you DO NOT want to miss due to how difficult the game is (the equipment in question has very high defense and is the only piece of equipment capable of making a character resistant to every element).

[kaqqao]

I'm grateful for the save game hack! Lets me keep enjoying the game.
The early KO glitch is brilliant! :D Thank you, the guys who pointed it out!
Thanks also to the people giving me strategies. I'll skip the robot for now, but the advice might prove useful should I even decide to revisit it.

On the other hand, I love how people felt the need to lecture me about what's difficult and fair etc. What use could I possibly derive from it? *I* find the robot stupid and it makes *my* game unpleasant, and I'm looking for a way to skip this boss so I can finish the rest of the game's content which I do find pleasant. Whatever *your* definition of pleasant/fair/good/easy is, it won't help me suddenly starts enjoying the robot. So please stop doing that. Yes, there're games with more projectiles on the screen. So? Does it make my experience of the robot boss better?

[Error404]

About the robot, does that exploit to kill him on Phase 1 work with the new patch?