Sugar Cube and Whetstone

[Lapinothodep]

Just some clarfication for anyone that's confused.

Sugar Cube and Whetstone's texts are misleading.
The 'first parry' refers to the first parry of each jump.
Cuphead can reuse these passives as long as he lands after parrying once.
Whetstone also allows Cuphead to parry non-pink objects.

Not that it matters since smoke bombs are overpowered.

[metal_hamster]

Oh, Sugar Cube sounds good. I have stopped using Smoke Bomb, was sick of not seeing where he'd land.

[Nervatel]

Yeah, they meant one thing, but its easy to misinterpret what they were going for.

Does the whetstone really allow you to parry non-pink items ?
I should look into that a bit.

[GooGroker]

WAIT WHAT
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING

[Ashe]

Man sugar cube really needs to fix it's wording if that's the case. It makes it seem like you have one free parry and bam that's it.

Though question for anyone who knows, what's the sugar cube's effect on plane levels?

[aub]

Originally posted by Schwoops:

Man sugar cube really needs to fix it's wording if that's the case. It makes it seem like you have one free parry and bam that's it.

Though question for anyone who knows, what's the sugar cube's effect on plane levels?

It doubles the duration of your parry, making it easier to parry objects.

[Anferny Crab]

Originally posted by Nervatel/ Hanging Closet Monster:

Yeah, they meant one thing, but its easy to misinterpret what they were going for.

Does the whetstone really allow you to parry non-pink items ?
I should look into that a bit.

I have tried it a bit on the first boss (carrot and onion) and I can parry the boss, but you won't get any cards.

[Hyper Realistic Blood]

Wait you mean the sugar cube isn't useless?

[Nervatel]

Originally posted by Anferny Crab:

Originally posted by Nervatel/ Hanging Closet Monster:

Yeah, they meant one thing, but its easy to misinterpret what they were going for.

Does the whetstone really allow you to parry non-pink items ?
I should look into that a bit.

I have tried it a bit on the first boss (carrot and onion) and I can parry the boss, but you won't get any cards.

Yeah I tried it on the first run and gun level and you can use it to get past the acorn machine for a pacifist run

It doesn't seem to build EX cards as fast as a normal parry, but it does allow you to parry off enemies, but not projectiles
If you do parry an enemy, it doesn't get counted during the ranking's parry count (or at least it didn't work for me)

[Javinson]

Originally posted by Nervatel/ Hanging Closet Monster:

Originally posted by Anferny Crab:

I have tried it a bit on the first boss (carrot and onion) and I can parry the boss, but you won't get any cards.

Yeah I tried it on the first run and gun level and you can use it to get past the acorn machine for a pacifist run

It doesn't seem to build EX cards as fast as a normal parry, but it does allow you to parry off enemies, but not projectiles
If you do parry an enemy, it doesn't get counted during the ranking's parry count (or at least it didn't work for me)

Yes. There are basically two kinds of parries. One is usually when you parry an enemy's projectile. This will "count" as a parry, working towards achievements, getting you an EX card, and working towards the parry counter at the end of the level. The second kind is usually when you parry a constant object, and this kind is usually necessary to beat the level (ex. Ribby and Croaks' slot machine handle). This will not reward you with any of the things mentioned in the first kind of parry, but will still give you an extra jump and usually progresses the level further. Enemies that are only parry-able with the whetstone will be the second kind of parry, while damaging the enemy. Honestly, I wonder if that is overpowered.

[Moondane]

I thought it was only the first parry in the mission, which made me think it was the most useless thing in the game.

[Codester]

TBH does it even matter. You are gimping yourself if you don't use smoke bomb, it's the only useful charm.

[Javinson]

Originally posted by Codester:

TBH does it even matter. You are gimping yourself if you don't use smoke bomb, it's the only useful charm.

Don't say that. (not trying to offend anyone, but) it's a bad idea to say any one weapon or charm is overpowered or bad for everything. Sure it may have more downsides than other things, but there are some situations where it is useful.

[Javinson]

Originally posted by NinjaSquid629:

Originally posted by Codester:

TBH does it even matter. You are gimping yourself if you don't use smoke bomb, it's the only useful charm.

Don't say that. (not trying to offend anyone, but) it's a bad idea to say any one weapon or charm is overpowered or bad for everything. Sure it may have more downsides than other things, but there are some situations where it is useful.

Okay, that isn't ALWAYS true. But it is in this game.

[Grim]

Originally posted by Codester:

TBH does it even matter. You are gimping yourself if you don't use smoke bomb, it's the only useful charm.

For what it's worth, I found Captain Brineybeard's Expert mode to be a lot easier with the Parry Sugar than the Smoke Bomb. There isn't a whole lot for you to dodge through in Brineybeard's stage, so the Smoke Bomb's utility is limited, but the amount of parryable objects in the fight, especially in situations that are hard to parry from (like a bullet right overhead), mean the sugar is a real help.

[Onion_Bubs]

Originally posted by Chef Excellence:

Wait you mean the sugar cube isn't useless?

Sugar Cube is my go-to charm for non-plane levels because I suck at parrying pink things that are above me. I found it particularly useful in all the Isle 3 boss fights other than the plane levels.