Why this game should never get an "easy mode".

[Truest Lord Pancake]

Okay to start, this isn't a get gud poast, and it's not meant to belittle people who want an easier mode. This is about why an easy mode is a bad idea.

An easy mode would literally defeat the whole point of the game. This game isn't about going from point A to point B. It's about the callenge of facing the bosses, being challenged, and overcoming that challenge. To lower the bar jsut to make the game beatable for some would defeat the point.

I've been gamign for over 30 years. I played most of the games the devs talk about as their inspiration, and I can tell you one thing: We didn't play for the stroy. Did we want to beat the games? Hell yeah we did, but not because we wanted to see the ending, we did it because we wanted to face the game's toughest challenge. We knew if we defeated all the bosses and made it through the game, we would feel like badasses.

The game isn't overly difficult, you can overcome the challenges with some practice and effort. It won't even take you that long, each boss fight is short as heck and won't take you all that long to get past once you have it down. It autosaves constantly and is designed to where youc an toss a few tries at a boss, and come back later right when you left off.

Do yourself a favor, keep at it. You'll get it, and you'll feel batter for it.

If overcoming a challenge isn't why you play games, than maybe this isn't the game for you. It's okay, the devs made their choice when they designed the game like this.

[Jcsonic]

the earth needs more people that accept difficulty as fun or a challenge "the bigger the difficulty, the bigger the triumph" (if it's fair and this game is)

[Kevin Ryan]

What would you say if they expanded simple mode to the rest of the islands?

Cuz simple mode literally IS the easy mode.

[Jcsonic]

yeah but if you play in simple mode you can't beat the game completely....simple as that

[Truest Lord Pancake]

Originally posted by Kevin Ryan:

What would you say if they expanded simple mode to the rest of the islands?

Cuz simple mode literally IS the easy mode.

Seeing as how it locks you out of the final challenge of the game, that's fine. Simple mode works, beause it can help you get the bosses patterns down, while still making you have to face them in regular to progress.

[Kevin Ryan]

Originally posted by Jordan ☯ Idling for Trading Card:

Originally posted by Kevin Ryan:

What would you say if they expanded simple mode to the rest of the islands?

Cuz simple mode literally IS the easy mode.

Stop whining fake gamer. Go watch a movie or let's play you whale

"Whale" is a term from F2P gaming. It means a customer who will spend hundreds of dollars on in game items." It can also be applied to someone who just buys games and treats them like disposable trash. No respect for gameplay as an art form. Just wanna see the pretty colors.

Are you ok?

[Jcsonic]

Originally posted by Kevin Ryan:

Originally posted by Jordan ☯ Idling for Trading Card:

Stop whining fake gamer. Go watch a movie or let's play you whale

"Whale" is a term from F2P gaming. It means a customer who will spend hundreds of dollars on in game items." It can also be applied to someone who just buys games and treats them like disposable trash. No respect for gameplay as an art form. Just wanna see the pretty colors.

Are you ok?

i dunno i mean nobody was exactly fighting here, you just sugested it without complaining about the game, which is fine.....probably tired of all the people just crying about an easy mode cuz they can't beat the game at all

[Kevin Ryan]

Originally posted by twitch.tv/truestlordpancake:

Originally posted by Kevin Ryan:

What would you say if they expanded simple mode to the rest of the islands?

Cuz simple mode literally IS the easy mode.

Seeing as how it locks you out of the final challenge of the game, that's fine. Simple mode works, beause it can help you get the bosses patterns down, while still making you have to face them in regular to progress.

That's what i've been campaiging for this whole time actually.

If simple mode expanded to the rest of the game, then not only do lesser skilled players get a full experience, they'll also be incentivised to perhaps try and graduate to the harder skill levels to see the content that simple mode removes (boss phases).

That's literally all that needs to happen.

But the kids on this forum man..........good lord. lol

[Jcsonic]

Originally posted by Kevin Ryan:

Originally posted by twitch.tv/truestlordpancake:

Seeing as how it locks you out of the final challenge of the game, that's fine. Simple mode works, beause it can help you get the bosses patterns down, while still making you have to face them in regular to progress.

That's what i've been campaiging for this whole time actually.

If simple mode expanded to the rest of the game, then not only do lesser skilled players get a full experience, they'll also be incentivised to perhaps try and graduate to the harder skill levels to see the content that simple mode removes (boss phases).

That's literally all that needs to happen.

But the kids on this forum man..........good lord. lol

true, but the simple mode is already easy, so if they can't get that, then they shouldn't just give up and ask for an easier mode, i see your point but it isn't for a game like this, i know you yourself aren't complaining, but don't take the side of people who give up easily, perseverance is key

[Cyber Akuma]

Sorry, but I fail to see how it would "Defeat the point of the game" simply because you like hard games, you are acting completely spoiled by not wanting there to be a 100% optional feature you and I would never touch just because others want it, simply becuse you are making up what you think is "the point of the game" and want to feel accomplished by playing a hard game about a freaking cartoon cup that fights bees and mermaids.

[Kevin Ryan]

Originally posted by Jcsonic:

Originally posted by Kevin Ryan:

That's what i've been campaiging for this whole time actually.

If simple mode expanded to the rest of the game, then not only do lesser skilled players get a full experience, they'll also be incentivised to perhaps try and graduate to the harder skill levels to see the content that simple mode removes (boss phases).

That's literally all that needs to happen.

But the kids on this forum man..........good lord. lol

true, but the simple mode is already easy, so if they can't get that, then they shouldn't just give up and ask for an easier mode, i see your point but it isn't for a game like this, i know you yourself aren't complaining, but don't take the side of people who give up easily, perseverance is key

I take the side of logic.

If they DO add an easier difficulty then my experience or the experience of anyone else who currently enjoys the game isn't negatively affected in the slightest.

I mean, who are we to decide what's good or not for a game we didn't actually make? They could literally come out with it next week for all we know.

We're just here to enjoy it and as far as I can tell, if someone else enjoys the game at a lowered difficulty then I will smile and continue to enjoy in the upper difficulties.

It's really not a big deal.

[Kevin Ryan]

Originally posted by Cyber Akuma:

Sorry, but I fail to see how it would "Defeat the point of the game" simply because you like hard games, you are acting completely spoiled by not wanting there to be a 100% optional feature you and I would never touch just because others want it, simply becuse you are making up what you think is "the point of the game" and want to feel accomplished by playing a hard game about a freaking cartoon cup that fights bees and mermaids.

F****G boom goes the dynamite.

Truth bomb has been dropped (thank god there's finally someone else who understands this)

[Cyber Akuma]

Originally posted by Kevin Ryan:

Originally posted by Cyber Akuma:

Sorry, but I fail to see how it would "Defeat the point of the game" simply because you like hard games, you are acting completely spoiled by not wanting there to be a 100% optional feature you and I would never touch just because others want it, simply becuse you are making up what you think is "the point of the game" and want to feel accomplished by playing a hard game about a freaking cartoon cup that fights bees and mermaids.

F****G boom goes the dynamite.

Truth bomb has been dropped (thank god there's finally someone else who understands this)

Honestly, this argument would work for anything that is 100% optional that you don't have to touch. I have seen similar "Would defeat the point of the game" arguments (which is a logical fallacy by the way, as it's appealing to emotions) made when people asked if there was a way to turn off the film grain filter and when people asked if there can be online co-op.

[Jcsonic]

Originally posted by Kevin Ryan:

Originally posted by Cyber Akuma:

Sorry, but I fail to see how it would "Defeat the point of the game" simply because you like hard games, you are acting completely spoiled by not wanting there to be a 100% optional feature you and I would never touch just because others want it, simply becuse you are making up what you think is "the point of the game" and want to feel accomplished by playing a hard game about a freaking cartoon cup that fights bees and mermaids.

F****G boom goes the dynamite.

Truth bomb has been dropped (thank god there's finally someone else who understands this)

my complaint isn't the addition of the easy mode (even tho it seems that way), my complaint is about the people that would innevitably complain about anything BUT the easier mode, being as the game is designed to be hard proooooobably because the difficulty is what makes the game artificially long, just count the levels and look at the fact that every level and boss can be beaten in less than 2 minutes........some people will do as you say and have a good time, but the wide majority would just complain as much as they are now or more as you can't beat the game unless you take on the standard difficulty, it's sad really, but yeah, the game's difficulty is good for 2 reasons

1: it makes the player feel good for beating it and

2: makes the game artificially long....they were probably forced to make this game as hard as it is to make it longer, as easy mode would REQUIRE the entire game to be longer in level quantity and stuff like that.

[Cyber Akuma]

You realize that artifically making the game long is generally considered a negative, right? How many people complain about backtracking in a game?

[Kevin Ryan]

Originally posted by Jcsonic:

Originally posted by Kevin Ryan:

F****G boom goes the dynamite.

Truth bomb has been dropped (thank god there's finally someone else who understands this)

my complaint isn't the addition of the easy mode (even tho it seems that way), my complaint is about the people that would innevitably complain about anything BUT the easier mode, being as the game is designed to be hard proooooobably because the difficulty is what makes the game artificially long, just count the levels and look at the fact that every level and boss can be beaten in less than 2 minutes........some people will do as you say and have a good time, but the wide majority would just complain as much as they are now or more as you can't beat the game unless you take on the standard difficulty, it's sad really, but yeah, the game's difficulty is good for 2 reasons

1: it makes the player feel good for beating it and

2: makes the game artificially long....they were probably forced to make this game as hard as it is to make it longer, as easy mode would REQUIRE the entire game to be longer in level quantity and stuff like that.

Easy mode to them is what normal and expert mode is to us.

Game ends up suitably long for everyone.

There's really no issue that I can see that would justify such vehement opposition on these forums.

It's SUPER weird to be honest.