Broken achievments - No More Lives | Infinite Lives

[Deli]

Hi, guys.
Yesterday i with my friend complete that cool game and cuz that game is so cool we decided to get all achievment.
We try to get "Big brother" ach first, but it's not working (thx forum discussion)
Than we're spend around 10-12 hours to find 5 Lives devs and... after 5 "Chris Conte", 4 "Mitch Cliffod" and many of Garcia NPC we did it. We found a last one - Brent Waller!

And... We dont get that "ARRRRGH" achievment.

Hey, Mike Diskett, [http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197972292762], here: http://steamcommunity.com/games/268870/announcements/detail/132081952590371032 you say that if i dont get ach [No big brother, but... meh.] - i can send you a schreenshoot where i done it.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=835864699
You can see - we found each:
1. Dean Ferguson
2. Chris Conte
3. Mitch Clifford
4. Brent Waller
5. Mike Diskett.

Mike, can you help me and my friend?!

I realy hope that devs see that message. :|
P.s. Sorry for my bad english.

[Gillsing]

That's strange, because I got that achievement in this latest version of the game (Linux). So it's not completely broken. Maybe Steam was taking a temporary break at the precise moment when you should've gotten the achievement? Or did you split up your 5 Lives collecting into more than one game session? I did it in a single session, since I figured it might be necessary to do it that way.

[Deli]

Steam was fine, but yes - we did it in 3-4 game session. But! In description of ach. dont says anything about "1 session" and for so random ach do it in 1 session - is so hard and strangely.
=> it's a little broken. Atleast i think so.
We try to rejoin after we done it (it was help us with some ach previous) but still nothing.

[Gillsing]

I know that many of the achievements have various counters that may or may not reset for every new session, and then there are the pacifist achievements which are broken in the opposite direction, so that players automatically get them when starting a session in a new district. I agree that it's somewhat broken if you can't get the Infinite Lives achievement in a single game split in multiple sessions, but that seems to be the likely explanation.

In single player I could take long breaks while not shutting off the game, so that helped. Though the game was getting bugged while I was trying to get that achievement, so that by the end the only civilians NPCs that spawned were stationary NPCs, such as homeless people and 'bodyguards' outside clubs. I just fast-travelled from place to place, and scrolled my screen away from an area to get the NPCs to spawn, counting the brief flashes of static in the middle of the screen to see that all the NPCs in that area had spawned before I started checking their names. It was a struggle.

[Deli]

Yep. We "farm" them same way.
And if we know it earlyer - we just can pause game, but...
Meh.
And i dont want spend other 8-10 hours withous 100% that i get it.

[Gillsing]

I just got the No More Lives achievement, with the same team of agents who got me the Infinite Lives achievement. So apparently it's possible to get at least one of those achievements split up into more than one game session with the same team.

Though I'm not sure when/how Brent Waller died, because he doesn't show up in my list. I doubt that I killed a developer without making a note of it, but that is still a possibility. I suppose he could've been killed by accident during a shootout with Dracogenics, but killing an innocent bystander is incredibly rare, as civilians tend to print away before that happens. It seems much more likely that if Brent Waller was killed by accident, it would've been if he ran into a restricted area and got killed by guards. Which makes it look like it's not so important who does the actual killing, just as long as they get killed.

Though if it's possible to kill one without even noticing, it kind of disqualifies the "found" part of "Found and killed all 5 Lives devs". I wonder if they have to be scanned first to count for the achievment? Maybe ID for non-VIPs aren't even generated until they're scanned? Maybe someone who never uses World Scan and just kills all civilians they find could get this achievement after killing a few thousand civilians?

A diligent player who only needs to kill one more dev for the achievement could find that dev and then scare him into a restricted area to find out if it matters who does the killing. Though I suppose they'd prefer to get the achievement done rather than experiment like that. Another experiment would be to have the agents use the dev clones and then get killed. Maybe that might count as well? Should be easy enough for someone who's already got the Infinite Lives achievement, but I didn't think to try that myself, and now it's too late.

KILLED:
Mitch Clifford
Debbie Ferguson (twice)
Michelle Diskett
Mitch Clifford (again)
Cristina Conte (twice)
Barbra Waller (thrice, no achievement for a mix of male and female versions)
Chris Conte (twice, Downtown)
Mitch Clifford (again, Downtown, Industrial, CBD)
Mike Diskett (CBD, Downtown)
---new game session---
Mitchella Clifford (thrice, Downtown)
Mitch Clifford (Downtown)
Barbra Waller (Downtown)
---new game session---
Chris Conte (Downtown)
Dean Ferguson (Downtown)