CIWS : what is the best shell against missiles ?

[Lorenzo[FR]]

is there something better flak against missiles ?
for now i'm using flak on a 50mm turret (5x5x6) with 846rpm.
the shell is :
14x gunpowder
1 timed fuse
3x flak warhead
1 flak nose

[NoobMaster69]

My personal best CWIS was also a 50mm, but it was and AP shell that was ~1500-2000rpm

71mm With a few flaks, a timed fuse and a hollowpoint is also pretty good

[Rufus Shinra]

50 mm AP as well. 17 gunpowder, 1 stabilizing fin, 1 solid body, 1 AP head. I get 1530 RPM with shells going 1800+ metres per second and doing, IIRC, 350 damage per hit. Very effective.

[Eudaimonia]

Kinetics are best for DPS, flak is best for clusters. But interceptors are even better against clusters, and unlike flak they are also good at pure DPS. So you want kinetic CIWS backed by interceptors.

As for the shell choices, math has you covered. Gunpowder is figured out, rail is currently being calculated. 94 gauge, 6.54 GP modules-base bleeder-1solid-1sabot-1heavy head. Mix in tracers for increased accuracy. That will give you the highest DPS.

The inaccuracy from recoil depends on how much recoil each individual shell generates. In other words large shells have a lot of recoil and inaccuracy from it, small shells have very little. Because of that, guns with tiny gauge can go completely without recoil absorbtion, if they are designed for it with other accuracy measures in place such as a long barrel and tracers.

[Lorenzo[FR]]

the big problem i see with kinetic shell is we require a direct hit on the missile -> it will be very hard to have everything pack in a 5x5x6 area if i had recoil absorber ... or it will lower the RPM significantly.
i want to add 3 ciws on each side of the ship but maybe i will go for interceptor instead (like you say), they can be pack in a 4x1x5 area -> i will need a lot more test, my ship will never be finish

[Sedrido]

torpedo interceptors are pretty cool like on the rhea

[NoobMaster69]

Originally posted by LorenzoFR:

the big problem i see with kinetic shell is we require a direct hit on the missile -> it will be very hard to have everything pack in a 5x5x6 area if i had recoil absorber ... or it will lower the RPM significantly.
i want to add 3 ciws on each side of the ship but maybe i will go for interceptor instead (like you say), they can be pack in a 4x1x5 area -> i will need a lot more test, my ship will never be finish

5x5x6 is pretty small compared to my 50s...
one is 9x9x11 and one is 7x7x11 (but its beltfed to get the sameish RPM)

[Lorenzo[FR]]

9x9x11 for a CIWS ???
my bigger 500mm + railgun is 7x7x6 or 7x7x7, your build should be a enormous giganticus ^^

[NoobMaster69]

Originally posted by LorenzoFR:

9x9x11 for a CIWS ???
my bigger 500mm + railgun is 7x7x6 or 7x7x7, your build should be a enormous giganticus ^^

Well, normal loaders+Recoil+Surge Protectors+Cooling=2000RPM

[Lorenzo[FR]]

you put the surge protectors on the ciws ?
i put them around the room containing the turret to protect the "one axis turret" since there's nothing to do against a EMP shooting directly at the "barrels" or "mantlet" (they just destroy AI parts).
i use metal to create specific "path to ground" to force the emp to travel where i want i add surge protector on the way

[Lorenzo[FR]]

i just check : there's no "emp susceptibility" for all canon parts, emp just travel safely trough them.

[Major0Noob]

you can get away with 25mm kinetic, just use a heavy head and make sure it's over 1000m/s and has 20ap

personally i don't care for flak or HE, they need to be extremely fine tuned to match solid, and they like to nuke themselves.

[Tuesdak]

depends on the size of the thing you are shooting at large/huge missiles and crams I find kenetic to be better otherwise use flak/He