metal airship balloon or helium pump ?

[A Terrible Modder]

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[Tavinral]

Helium pumps aren't used at all by me... The ratio of volume area to lift is too low, unless you're building something with a lot of room. Personally i don't use baloons either, I stick with heliblades. They can be much more precise and useful with fine tuning and practice. Use ACB's (automated control blocks) to control the heliblades, hope this helps. :)

[Godfish]

dediblades and upwards facing thrusters, with wings if it's going very fast.

[Tavinral]

Thrusters do work very well, however i've always found wings and ailerons to be kinda useless... They don't have enough lift or agility that i need, so i use thrusters to compensate for that. Thrusters work amazing!

[CHOO CHOO]

Helim is great for reducing the power draw of altitude thrusters. But to lift a ship with helium alone takes a looot of internal space.

[Godfish]

Originally posted by CHOO CHOO:

Helim is great for reducing the power draw of altitude thrusters. But to lift a ship with helium alone takes a looot of internal space.

and a looot of processor time. avoid pumps if you have a bad PC.

[Grumpy Old Gamer]

Helium is better than air pumps for flotation chambers in ships.

[FourGreenFields]

Originally posted by Explosive Diarrhea:

Helium is better than air pumps for flotation chambers in ships.

Just tried it, and it's not. Air pump and helium pump can't both use the same room, and a helium pump generates less buoyancy below water than an airpump does. Probably to balance them a little.

[CHOO CHOO]

That makes no sense.

The pumps never made sense anyways...pumping in air, while underwater...but where does the air come from? And where does the helium come from? What kind of magical helium gains density when below sea level?

[Doombringer]

Air Pumps give a larger increase in bouyancy, but only work on empty block below sea level.
Spam Balloon Deployers are probably better than helium pumps anyways, 1 hole in your ship won't cause it to crash.

If you think anything in this game is realistic... seriously - 7m of solid metal armor on something that actually floats?
Water somehow gets into totally sealed chambers (unless there are air pumps).
Magically clipping sub-objects, etc.

[CHOO CHOO]

I don't. But I manage to ignore it, most of the time. Then I think of the pumps and a brain cell dies.

[Grumpy Old Gamer]

Yeah the whole airpump or its flooded thing is annoying.

[Réiva]

Originally posted by Doombringer:

Air Pumps give a larger increase in bouyancy, but only work on empty block below sea level.
Spam Balloon Deployers are probably better than helium pumps anyways, 1 hole in your ship won't cause it to crash.

If you think anything in this game is realistic... seriously - 7m of solid metal armor on something that actually floats?
Water somehow gets into totally sealed chambers (unless there are air pumps).
Magically clipping sub-objects, etc.

I never registered that the air pump was actually called an air pump

I always considered it to be pumping the water out

[Jason]

I never really thought of air pumps in that way to be honest. I always sort of thought of them like their water pumps that you're pumping the water out and back in. although that doesn't really make a ton of sense either because then where does the air come from when you pump the water back out. Where does the air go when you pump the water in? My brain hurts!