Trokka is a bad designed boss

[petkovnn]

I wear one of the heaviest armors in the game, i have the set for 30% less damage and she still kill me with 2-3 shots on easy mode. I have strength build with 50 strength and 30 Vitality and a greatsword and can not hit her couse she teleports and dodges like crazy hurling spells. I tried poison on her and seems poison does not have effect. I use the spider set that is supposed to boos poison damage.

[grandma_moses]

If you feel you have something valuable to say, you make it as readable as possible to reach as many people as possible with your message.

The boss is a scam like Mercedes pricing is a scam. People who can afford them easily do not complain, in fact they are happy for the privilege of being a small group that can afford one.

The rest moans about the pricing, calls it overpriced, calls them stupid and via exactly that mindset cements themselves firmly in the realm of never getting one.

Just to be clear, the game is not cheating and it is not a scam. I know without clear names in forums people tend to say all kinds of...let's call it....things - but nothing you say will distract us from the fact that you seem to struggle mightily and instead of looking inwards to improve, which is a rocky and winding road, you look outwards to belittle.

Or, still differently - if you push the right buttons for 2 minutes in a row, you will beat every boss in the game. Is it the bosses fault if someone does not manage that?

Were you informed, before paying lots and lots of money for the game, what this game tries to be and that this genre generally isn't considered box office for the mobile game braindead?

But if you swallow your pride, simply admit to yourself that you need to practice and get better, take the necessary time to do so and finally succeed, there is a chance you will become one of us. As that's what we did as well. Part of the crew, part of the ship.

[Darth_Roxs]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheProphet:

Bro i struggled the same with GW and switched to dual wield and after that easy game .Do not listen to trolls here they play with noob weapons like spear and dual wield this is why they say that this boss is easy

GS user and it's indeed a skill issue. Rush her and wack her it's not complicated, lol.

[grandma_moses]

The weapon hast the smallest part to do with why a boss is easy for some people and not easy for others. Put differently, if she's easy for you, you will beat her with any weapon - it's the reactive stuff that people fail at, not the proactive stuff like using weapons.

Yet, as long as you find crutches like 'blaming a weak weapon type', which then stops you from finding the mistakes that you yourself are responsible for and gradually fix them, you will never find the fun that's hidden in these games, ever.

Not a diss, actually trying to yeet out some solid advice. Hold yourself accountable for things that you yourself did subpar and you will profit sooner or later - in these games as in life, for that matter.

[Mescalite]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von grandma_moses:

The weapon hast the smallest part to do with why a boss is easy for some people and not easy for others. Put differently, if she's easy for you, you will beat her with any weapon - it's the reactive stuff that people fail at, not the proactive stuff like using weapons.

Yet, as long as you find crutches like 'blaming a weak weapon type', which then stops you from finding the mistakes that you yourself are responsible for and gradually fix them, you will never find the fun that's hidden in these games, ever.

Not a diss, actually trying to yeet out some solid advice. Hold yourself accountable for things that you yourself did subpar and you will profit sooner or later - in these games as in life, for that matter.

i disagree, i wrecked her on normal first playthrough with dualwiel
i struggled on easy with greatsword

Use blue jellyfish to regen your stam, you don't need dodge build, just dodge first and last projectile

[grandma_moses]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mescalite:

i disagree, i wrecked her on normal first playthrough with dualwiel
i struggled on easy with greatsword

Use blue jellyfish to regen your stam, you don't need dodge build, just dodge first and last projectile

I'd say, although I'm not sure how much of that you'll appreciate, that there's something else going on here.

If you stomped her with dual wield, it's safe for me to assume that you never learned her moveset to the point of being able to play her without totally stomping her - as that's what's stomping is, in my experience - zerging while not minutely paying attention to the intricacies of detail in combos or movement.

Which is why you have trouble with the greatsword on easy - you never actually learned the boss to the degree of mastery as you didn't need to when a strong weapon choice was able to mask some deficiencies in fight knowledge and with that, carry you through the boss your first time around.

So a broken, busted or OP weapon masked you not fully learning the boss, which became apparent when you refought the boss with a weapon that didn't allow you to stomp it.

It can also be overleveling for your first go-around that trivialised the boss for you. Quite a few choices could lead to you stomping the first encounter, which leaves you without the necessary practice and understanding for the second encounter where stomping is no l,onger an option.

But that's just a theory stemming from my current greatsword playthrough and the notion that no boss challenges me to the point of frustration, let alone to the point of switching over to easy when playing with the Greatsword. So either I'm a god-gamer, which I'm surely not, or you can beat the bosses with any weapon rather easily after having learned them completely once.

[电动天使]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von grandma_moses:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Mescalite:

i disagree, i wrecked her on normal first playthrough with dualwiel
i struggled on easy with greatsword

Use blue jellyfish to regen your stam, you don't need dodge build, just dodge first and last projectile

I'd say, although I'm not sure how much of that you'll appreciate, that there's something else going on here.

If you stomped her with dual wield, it's safe for me to assume that you never learned her moveset to the point of being able to play her without curbstomping her - as that's what's stomping is, in my experience.

Which is why you have trouble with the greatsword on easy - you never actually learned the boss to the degree of mastery as you didn't need to when a strong weapon choice was able to mask some deficiencies in fight knowledge.

So a broken, busted or OP weapon masked you not fully learning the boss, which became apparent when you refought the boss with a weapon that didn't allow you to stomp it.

But that's just a theory stemming from my current greatsword playthrough and the notion that no boss challenges me to the point of frustration, let alone to the point of switching over to easy when playing with the Greatsword. So either I'm a god-gamer, which I'm surely not, or you can beat the bosses with any weapon rather easily after having learned them completely once.

The weapon balancing is pretty good. All weapons have very similar performance and it's up to the user whether they'll do fine with them or not.

[grandma_moses]

That's what I wanted to express, just using some more words and examples. :)

The Greatsword's charging mechanics feels so freshly different from the others - which is why I believe that the Greatsword takes some extra practice and understanding before unlocking it, but afterwards, the difference in weapon classes is negligible to the point of some bosses and enemies being easier with one while other bosses and enemies are easier with the other - as it should be.

Rangkus, just as the most recent example I came across, feels 100 times easier with the Greatsword than he did dual wielding.

[电动天使]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von grandma_moses:

That's what I wanted to express, just using some more words and examples. :)

The Greatswords charging mechanics feels so freshly different from the others - which is why I believe that the Greatsword takes some extra practice and understanding before unlocking it, but afterwards, the difference in weapon classes is negligible to the point of some bosses and enemies being easier with one while other bosses and enemies are easier with the other - as it should be.

I usually stick to shorter posts since longer ones will probably get ignored anyway. A lot of people are here to vent, rather than say anything meaningful.

I agree with what you've said. Greatsword is indeed the hardest to learn, because of the charging mechanics and slower moves in general. You'll figure it out and it'll be pretty much the same as other weapons.