Pell Los Guardian Knight and trooper don't do counter-attack attacks

[Kisama]

How are you supposed to get their bonus training when there is no way to reliably make them do a counterable attack ? They just don't do this attack, basically ever.

[NyX]

I am trying to figure this one now. I have no idea how to make them do their special attacks so that I can counter them. I have tried everything. Attacking aggresively, guarding, brick guarding, just dodging, keeping my distance... Nothing works. They just don't do those special red attacks ever.

I will keep trying different things and see if I manage to make them do it. There has to be a consistent way of doing this.

EDIT: Ok, I figured it out. You basically need to do a heavy attack combo when they have their shields up and then they will do their special red attacks in retaliation that you can counter. Basically you guard/brick guard their combos, do a 3 heavy attack combo that they block and they will always retaliate with theirs special attacks that you need to counter. Do the loop like that 3 times and you are good to go.

[Monihead]

Sorry for the institutional translation.
How to complete the bonus training of the knights of Per Ross!

■ Spear
Use a definite technique that can be countered by putting in a series of attacks after a shield slap

■ Sword
If you make a series of attacks after the four-strike attack, you can use a definite counter move.

If your weapon is decent, you will beat him, so use a weak weapon!

[Kase Minato]

Originally posted by Nikolaus:

I am trying to figure this one now. I have no idea how to make them do their special attacks so that I can counter them. I have tried everything. Attacking aggresively, guarding, brick guarding, just dodging, keeping my distance... Nothing works. They just don't do those special red attacks ever.

I will keep trying different things and see if I manage to make them do it. There has to be a consistent way of doing this.

EDIT: Ok, I figured it out. You basically need to do a heavy attack combo when they have their shields up and then they will do their special red attacks in retaliation that you can counter. Basically you guard/brick guard their combos, do a 3 heavy attack combo that they block and they will always retaliate with theirs special attacks that you need to counter. Do the loop like that 3 times and you are good to go.

What weapon did you use to do it?
Because I attack him while he's defending, and he never attacks.
I hit him with three powerful dual attacks and a spear.

Nothing works.

[Lexomatico]

Went to the 2nd level to get the lowest weapon possible, no dice. Even tried fist only and he did it once. Got bored and moved on and said F these 2 challenges.

[NyX]

Originally posted by Kase Minato:

Originally posted by Nikolaus:

I am trying to figure this one now. I have no idea how to make them do their special attacks so that I can counter them. I have tried everything. Attacking aggresively, guarding, brick guarding, just dodging, keeping my distance... Nothing works. They just don't do those special red attacks ever.

I will keep trying different things and see if I manage to make them do it. There has to be a consistent way of doing this.

EDIT: Ok, I figured it out. You basically need to do a heavy attack combo when they have their shields up and then they will do their special red attacks in retaliation that you can counter. Basically you guard/brick guard their combos, do a 3 heavy attack combo that they block and they will always retaliate with theirs special attacks that you need to counter. Do the loop like that 3 times and you are good to go.

What weapon did you use to do it?
Because I attack him while he's defending, and he never attacks.
I hit him with three powerful dual attacks and a spear.

Nothing works.

I use dual wield. When they do their 3 or 4 hit combos on me I just guarded/brick guarded and then did my own 3 hit heavy/potent blow attack (usually the first attack would land and the second and third would hit their shields) and in 90% of the time they would retaliate with a red attack that I would then counter.

Basically, from my testing they would red attack you only if you slammed on their shields hard.

[Phishfood]

I figured it out: here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2680010/discussions/0/595145072449761138/

[Amenoso]

Dual wield: as other players said, wait for for 3 attack combo (spearman) and 4 attack combo (swordman). After the last attack just use Ruthless (heavy attacks worked only on spearman, But ruthless worked for both). And they use thir "red attack". Unfortunately I always couldn't counter the first "red attack" (animation didn't end until I was hit). But there is always 2 chance with second attack jusr right after the 1 one.

I switched off brinck block damage and used Ruthless lvl1. My Dual wield were 250 atk (had some 41lvl from long ago)

[Durruti B]

For me what worked was going naked with only a low lvl dual wield weapon (Atk 304, i was at ng+ at the time so that was low given the circumstances) and i kept spamming the ruthless ability, however what guaranteed 3 out of 3 times the red attack was starting to channel the ruthless after they had been posture broken. so right before they picked themselves back up from the brutal attack state i started using ruthless and it triggered the red attack 3 times in a row

[Part Cyborg]

Completely bugged. Impossible to accomplish with a greatsword. Am i supposed to completely respec my entire build just to do this? Who designed this? A really dark spot in otherwise great game.

[Phishfood]

Originally posted by Part Cyborg:

Completely bugged. Impossible to accomplish with a greatsword. Am i supposed to completely respec my entire build just to do this? Who designed this? A really dark spot in otherwise great game.

I didn't respec my greatsword build, I just equipped the dual wields to do it.