I Love this game but Viper post nerf is a joke

[Reven]

https://youtu.be/RrXVxkQKy-0

Sorry for bad Quality Medal is trash

[ZexxCrine]

this has literally nothing to do with the berf. ng+ viper was always going to look like this. I was upset at the nerf but even on my first clear on him I beat him in 3 combos in phase 1 and 2 in phase 2. post beating him I found an infinite combo on spear.

with more combo tools it was always gonna look like this

[Reven]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

this has literally nothing to do with the berf. ng+ viper was always going to look like this. I was upset at the nerf but even on my first clear on him I beat him in 3 combos in phase 1 and 2 in phase 2. post beating him I found an infinite combo on spear.

with more combo tools it was always gonna look like this

yea i do understand this but the thing is this is NEW GAME not NG+ this is with lvl20 equip

[Kisama]

Yea now it's the race to beat the game before the company makes it "accessible" (aka gives it zero challenge).
There's an easy mode already there for them along with being able to summon a literal second player into the fight, but that's not enough lol.

[Reven]

Originally posted by Kisama:

Yea now it's the race to beat the game before the company makes it "accessible" (aka gives it zero challenge).
There's an easy mode already there for them along with being able to summon a literal second player into the fight, but that's not enough lol.

we get a dlc in may so hopefully we might get a nightmare mode

[MrLuckless]

Originally posted by Reven:

https://youtu.be/RrXVxkQKy-0

Sorry for bad Quality Medal is trash

Well that was neat, but is that on NG+? What's the major differences between it and the first playthrough?

[Giganx]

So you leveled up your character and abilities and went back and fought him again. It is fun that the game lets you refight bosses indefinitely.

[Reven]

Originally posted by MrLuckless:

Originally posted by Reven:

https://youtu.be/RrXVxkQKy-0

Sorry for bad Quality Medal is trash

Well that was neat, but is that on NG+? What's the major differences between it and the first playthrough?

its on NG, i didnt finish the game yet on my main save file i just started a second one with my friend and this was my fight against the normal Viper

[Reven]

Originally posted by Giganx:

So you leveled up your character and abilities and went back and fought him again. It is fun that the game lets you refight bosses indefinitely.

no i didnt this is on lvl20 equip and mastery 18 skills

[ZexxCrine]

Originally posted by Reven:

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

this has literally nothing to do with the berf. ng+ viper was always going to look like this. I was upset at the nerf but even on my first clear on him I beat him in 3 combos in phase 1 and 2 in phase 2. post beating him I found an infinite combo on spear.

with more combo tools it was always gonna look like this

yea i do understand this but the thing is this is NEW GAME not NG+ this is with lvl20 equip

my brother you have the entire soul eater set. I know you didnt grab that quickly. the game was never and should never be balanced around repeated farming. even if after gaining the set you killed yourself and lost all of the lacrima so you didnt gain any levels off it, you definitely kept the mastery points and the phantom levels.

so again, my point is and always has been that having more mechanics on top of what is expected of you to have by that point in the game, viper was always gonna be a joke.

[Reven]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

Originally posted by Reven:

yea i do understand this but the thing is this is NEW GAME not NG+ this is with lvl20 equip

my brother you have the entire soul eater set. I know you didnt grab that quickly. the game was never and should never be balanced around repeated farming. even if after gaining the set you killed yourself and lost all of the lacrima so you didnt gain any levels off it, you definitely kept the mastery points and the phantom levels.

so again, my point is and always has been that having more mechanics on top of what is expected of you to have by that point in the game, viper was always gonna be a joke.

i killed keshta 3 times in the sidequest got full set nothing more behind it anyone can do it its one more skill and the gear is worse lvl than the stuff you get in the mission before fighting viper

[ZexxCrine]

Originally posted by Reven:

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

my brother you have the entire soul eater set. I know you didnt grab that quickly. the game was never and should never be balanced around repeated farming. even if after gaining the set you killed yourself and lost all of the lacrima so you didnt gain any levels off it, you definitely kept the mastery points and the phantom levels.

so again, my point is and always has been that having more mechanics on top of what is expected of you to have by that point in the game, viper was always gonna be a joke.

i killed keshta 3 times in the sidequest got full set nothing more behind it anyone can do it its one more skill and the gear is worse lvl than the stuff you get in the mission before fighting viper

you must have had obscene luck then because it took me something like 3 hours of farming keshta to get it. let's not downplay the set bonus skill though.

again I can gurantee you that if you downpatched the game your fight with viper would look exactly the same. this isn't a nerf issue.

[Kashra Fall]

Lol, so you used the soul eater set to reset his stagger bar and say "This is ridiculous."? You can't be serious, right? You purposely made the fight easy by constantly keeping him in stagger. You can do this with any fight/boss, it's what the move is designed to do lol.

[Giganx]

Originally posted by Reven:

Originally posted by Giganx:

So you leveled up your character and abilities and went back and fought him again. It is fun that the game lets you refight bosses indefinitely.

no i didnt this is on lvl20 equip and mastery 18 skills

Dude, you clearly farmed sets and leveled up skills. That video isn't your first time fighting the boss.

Like I said, it's cool that the game lets you go back and stomp old bosses with your new sets and abilities, but this thread is just disingenuous.

[Reven]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

Originally posted by Reven:

i killed keshta 3 times in the sidequest got full set nothing more behind it anyone can do it its one more skill and the gear is worse lvl than the stuff you get in the mission before fighting viper

you must have had obscene luck then because it took me something like 3 hours of farming keshta to get it. let's not downplay the set bonus skill though.

again I can gurantee you that if you downpatched the game your fight with viper would look exactly the same. this isn't a nerf issue.

yea the set bonus skill is completely overtuned 100%, i beat viper pre nerf as well and he just felt harder but i also played spear on the other savefile so maybe thats why

[Reven]

Originally posted by Giganx:

Originally posted by Reven:

no i didnt this is on lvl20 equip and mastery 18 skills

Dude, you clearly farmed sets and leveled up skills. That video isn't your first time fighting the boss.

Like I said, it's cool that the game lets you go back and stomp old bosses with your new sets and abilities, but this thread is just disingenuous.

youre locked on mastery20 before you complete the mission after viper i got full set on 3 kills of keshta i wouldnt say thats farming