Stop expecting the vast majority of the playerbase to do no hit runs.

[Guldo]

its beyond pathetic and unreasobable to expect the vast majority playerbase to meet this standard so stop acting like these videos where people are doing no hits are valid because they are not.

[Guldo]

Originally posted by TheRaienryuu:

Originally posted by Guldo:

you cant upgrade them before the viper boss fight.

Time to upgrade your own skill level in that case no>?

except its an intended core mechanic so whos fault is that.

[Blue]

Originally posted by Guldo:

Originally posted by Blue:

You say the bosses are overtuned.

They aren't.

You're not good enough.

Thats how simple it is. lol

still cant over come phantoms being broken lol.

They aren't broken.. they are working as intended. They arent meant to solo the boss for you, gosh.

Also you dont need them, if you put in minimum effort.

[TheRaienryuu]

Originally posted by Guldo:

still cant over come phantoms being broken lol.

Brother if you need that much of a crutch, it's 10000% on your own skill. Even if the Phantoms somehow don't do enough for you, you can beat everything just fine without.
Otherwise instead of whining like this, come back later after there have been updates. The game isn't officially even out, only Early Access for Deluxe Editions...

[Blue]

Originally posted by PvWolf666:

Originally posted by Blue:

The HP isnt inflated. I feel like a lot of you are using really bad equipment or not the right passives on your gear.

In addition to this, there are mechanics involved that deal amazing amounts of damage to bosses, like your burst counter knocking off 50% if not more of their stamina bar, 2 of those and you get free hits in and the bosses defensive abilities are also turned off so you can do your combos, until you run out of stamina before the boss gets to act.

And if you drain the Stamina entirely, you get to do your potent/brutal attack, whatever the name, that also deals damage, and if you do it from the front, it HEALS you.

On top of this. You can get a set bonus that when you do an attack when the boss is in that state, you also heal,an these two effects stack.

To be fair, I haven't gotten that far to make a judgement on it, I was saying in general that I don't agree with them.

Hey, fair enough. If you ever encounter things that seem too soggy to kill, you can always get better weapons, if you craft them they match your level.

[Retsubty]

Originally posted by Blue:

Originally posted by Guldo:

still cant over come phantoms being broken lol.

They aren't broken.. they are working as intended. They arent meant to solo the boss for you, gosh.

Also you dont need them, if you put in minimum effort.

He means specifically for Viper. It just walks into the tornado and dies. Seems like a bug.

[Guldo]

Originally posted by Blue:

Originally posted by Guldo:

still cant over come phantoms being broken lol.

They aren't broken.. they are working as intended. They arent meant to solo the boss for you, gosh.

Also you dont need them, if you put in minimum effort.

oh yea its an intended mechenic when the AI is so dumb it death dives into the friggen boss instead of avoiding its attack. totaly intentional.

[Guldo]

Originally posted by TheRaienryuu:

Originally posted by Guldo:

still cant over come phantoms being broken lol.

Brother if you need that much of a crutch, it's 10000% on your own skill. Even if the Phantoms somehow don't do enough for you, you can beat everything just fine without.
Otherwise instead of whining like this, come back later after there have been updates. The game isn't officially even out, only Early Access for Deluxe Editions...

the point is its an intended mechanic. what the point of having it when the phantom is just going to get itself killed.

[Guldo]

Originally posted by Retsubty:

Originally posted by Blue:

They aren't broken.. they are working as intended. They arent meant to solo the boss for you, gosh.

Also you dont need them, if you put in minimum effort.

He means specifically for Viper. It just walks into the tornado and dies. Seems like a bug.

yes this. this right here.

[Blue]

Originally posted by Guldo:

Originally posted by Blue:

They aren't broken.. they are working as intended. They arent meant to solo the boss for you, gosh.

Also you dont need them, if you put in minimum effort.

oh yea its an intended cmechenic when the AI is so dumb it death dives into the friggen boss instead of avoiding its attack. totaly intentional.

pretty much any sort of Phantom be it Elden ring, Lies of P or Code vein have A.I that do similar. They do something you don't do though, the bare minimum.

I asked if you beat Viper did you?

[Guldo]

Originally posted by Blue:

Originally posted by Guldo:

oh yea its an intended cmechenic when the AI is so dumb it death dives into the friggen boss instead of avoiding its attack. totaly intentional.

pretty much any sort of Phantom be it Elden ring, Lies of P or Code vein have A.I that do similar. They do something you don't do though, the bare minimum.

I asked if you beat Viper did you?

yea on easy. but i felt like i was forced and didnt like that so i deleted it and started over.

[Blue]

Originally posted by Retsubty:

Originally posted by Blue:

They aren't broken.. they are working as intended. They arent meant to solo the boss for you, gosh.

Also you dont need them, if you put in minimum effort.

He means specifically for Viper. It just walks into the tornado and dies. Seems like a bug.

Do you mean the Tornado that sucks you in? Even if it does do that, and dies, that still doesn't make the Phantoms broken. That "could" mean 'on that part' it doesnt work well. I just loaded the game up, and used a phantom on a fight that i havent beat yet, because i have other things to do, just to see what it does. it took off about 60% if not more of the bosses HP with me barely doing anything, and it dodged, and absorbed damage well.

And ive upgraded them. lol

[Guldo]

Originally posted by Blue:

Originally posted by Retsubty:

He means specifically for Viper. It just walks into the tornado and dies. Seems like a bug.

Do you mean the Tornado that sucks you in? Even if it does do that, and dies, that still doesn't make the Phantoms broken. That "could" mean 'on that part' it doesnt work well. I just loaded the game up, and used a phantom on a fight that i havent beat yet, because i have other things to do, just to see what it does. it took off about 60% if not more of the bosses HP with me barely doing anything, and it dodged, and absorbed damage well.

And ive upgraded them. lol

the thing is the tornado only pulls you in from a certain distance and the AI isnt smart enough to start runing away durring the wind up.

[Norentsu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al_IcKZhf2g&t=34s

NO EXCUSES.

[Blue]

Originally posted by Guldo:

Originally posted by Blue:

pretty much any sort of Phantom be it Elden ring, Lies of P or Code vein have A.I that do similar. They do something you don't do though, the bare minimum.

I asked if you beat Viper did you?

yea on easy. but i felt like i was forced and didnt like that so i deleted it and started over.

Okay, so you beat it on easy. Why not continue on easy if it makes it better for you.

What weapon are you using?

For Viper, I changed from Greatsword to Spear. I also changed my equipment so i had more stamina regen, and less weight to be able to dodge better.

I also went fully into swift attack for moon stance to get phantom attacks or damage or whatever its called. And i got.. .. i dont remember, you spin the spear in front of you and it does bring guards for you, to counter him when he leaps from the shadow tornado at you, as i couldnt dodge it well enough.

I changed how i played, after learning the fight, to better counter what he did. And i beat him.

It took me 40 minutes of getting beat up trying various things but most of all, learning what he does.

Then it took about 5-10 mins of applying what i learned to find a good pace, then i beat him. and it was extremely once sided when i did.

So instead of being, wrong, saying the bosses are overtuned.

Change your self and the way you play and learn how the boss works. The only real obstacle is you. not the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ phantom, that works the way it does, because its not an "I win button" for you to not do anything in the game, okay?

[Blue]

Originally posted by Guldo:

Originally posted by Blue:

Do you mean the Tornado that sucks you in? Even if it does do that, and dies, that still doesn't make the Phantoms broken. That "could" mean 'on that part' it doesnt work well. I just loaded the game up, and used a phantom on a fight that i havent beat yet, because i have other things to do, just to see what it does. it took off about 60% if not more of the bosses HP with me barely doing anything, and it dodged, and absorbed damage well.

And ive upgraded them. lol

the thing is the tornado only pulls you in from a certain distance and the AI isnt smart enough to start runing away durring the wind up.

Fair enough, that sucks. But again, the phantoms are there to assist you, not beat the boss, most likely the phantom will die in phase two, to the Dark Tornado Jumpy attacks that it does.

Also, the phantoms do work as intended, EVEN IF, that ONE TORNADO makes it not work that well.

But as i said, fair enough. okay.