Viper needs some hard tuning. (spoilers)

[Ganbare_gaijin]

He has way too much health for a two phase, full lifebar fight. Also the AI Co-op is relatively useless here because they frequently just stand in his whirlwind and die. I was having fun until this part, it's a roadblock to the point of not being fun.

[Aikiu]

引用自 Retsubty：

Dear lord, there of course had to be a second phase lol

His second phase was surprisingly easier than the first one for me, god that one delayed slash messed up my memory muscle badly

[Trilkin]

Can also honestly cheese most of the boss with spear's auto-guard. Not only does the spear's auto-guard cost zero stamina for about 2 seconds of just-defends, but each defense does damage as well. More if you pre-buff with Moonlight to get afterimage damage.

[Retsubty]

引用自 Aikiu：

引用自 Retsubty：

Dear lord, there of course had to be a second phase lol

His second phase was surprisingly easier than the first one for me, god that one delayed slash messed up my memory muscle badly

The issue is that I'm out of pots in phase 2 so even if it's easier the first phase essentialy wore out my resources.

[badger vortex]

引用自 Ninjaman：

Greatsword worked for me just fine. Use the skill that lets you do a fast two-hit attack immediately following a parry (sorry forgot the name) - most of his combo attacks have delays in between so you can whittle down his health that way. Also use the skill that damages enemies when you parry. With good parries you can actually interrupt or create a stagger window after some of his longer combos leaving him open for damage. Mortal Blow or whatever it's called works well as a follow-up. Do a full charged heavy attack before using the brutal attack when his meter runs out. Experiment with different skills on the big dude behind the pillar near the last checkpoint. Phase 2 is much easier IMO.

i was using a potent blow (right click) in between his combos, is doing 2 regular attacks better then? either way it just seems like i could barely get any damage in between the combos so fight takes ages.

i did have damage on parry and i eventually was able to parry most of his attacks. the only stagger window i had was after he does the tornado and he has a new attack pattern. it was only this new combo that would cause him stagger! outside of that it wasn't possible to stagger him because his attacks were too frequent. was i supposed to put more points into poise/stamina damage? seems like focusing more on str for damage is a noob trap?

[HekiReki]

No he does not. I hate players like this that instantly rush to forums NERF NERF NERF TOO STRONG! How about you learn the game mechanics?

[Corona Scurrae]

What happened to this game being too easy? Jesus I envy the naivety of people who believe every word the development team utters

[ReadyNick]

I'm worried now lol, what would you compare the difficulty to a boss in Elden Ring just so I have an idea.

[Elysion]

引用自 viktorhallo：

smart of them to add a easy mode. then they can make the normal mode harder than other soulgames without filtering to many people.

oh yea but sadly these cry babies cant shut uo

[acrosouls233]

From everything Iv seen of people talking about the difficulty I think having 3 difficulty setting would alleviate the problem.

An actual easy mode that trivializes the bosses and you can get through the story. A normal mode similar to the one now but maybe a little less damage from bosses and you hit a little harder. And a hard mode that is even a little harder than the normal mode is now.

[NeoReaper82]

To the clowns who say easy mode is there. The only difference is it dials down damage slightly and affords more mobility and stamina. they are pretty much the same damn thing.

[Kouki]

引用自 NeoReaper82：

To the clowns who say easy mode is there. The only difference is it dials down damage slightly and affords more mobility and stamina. they are pretty much the same damn thing.

yep it doesnt help and im stuck at the spider boss..the spirit dies after 10sec what a joke

[Baron01]

引用自 NeoReaper82：

To the clowns who say easy mode is there. The only difference is it dials down damage slightly and affords more mobility and stamina. they are pretty much the same damn thing.

I do not have any experience with easy difficulty in Khazan so far but I was considering switching to it on Viper.
The quote is pretty much what I would expect from easier difficulty with addition of longer parry and counter windows, ideally. One of bigger challenges in fight is to keep up your stamina high so you can use it either defensively or have enough of it to launch attack when boss is exhausted. I had so many moment where I finally managed to exhaust Viper only to realize I have almost no stamina left so I could not punish the boss. Having more stamina and mobility is a big advantage.

[meh324]

引用自 Kouki：

引用自 NeoReaper82：

To the clowns who say easy mode is there. The only difference is it dials down damage slightly and affords more mobility and stamina. they are pretty much the same damn thing.

yep it doesnt help and im stuck at the spider boss..the spirit dies after 10sec what a joke

I did him 2nd try
legs then play aggresive, gl






You guys need to git gud and lvl up properly, some skills are pretty meh for bosses so try something else?

or don't touch souls games

[Adyin]

He's a challenge, mate (I think I'm max level I've fought him for so long hahaha!) but it is just a skill check and if I can beat him, so can you. But for anyone really struggling I have seen
Elbethium has a video up on this and tbh, once you fight him long enough, you will find his moveset a piece of wee-wee. If you played Nioh, it's like getting mauled in the ship with the first boss and your brain is going mad trying to figure it out ha! Just relax, take a break after a few attempts, but in the end, when you beat him as you will know all his tricks, you will realise he's not that bad really - HFGL :)

[Zerixar]

stop calling for nerfs just because you're bad. maybe easy mode is for you. as someone who farmed him 20+ times for his full set, the whole fight is just learning to parry his consistantly slow attacks and stagger him with charge attacks in p1 and burst counter in p2. it will always blow my mind how people go "i'm stuck, the problem couldn't be me, nerf it"