WAS going to buy this game until...

[Ziack]

I saw a review saying there is an "Easy mode". How tf do you put an easy mode in a souls game? and why? So sick of this generation of "Gamers"

Edit: I guess it's time I edit this, as people don't read through entire threads for the updated information, and this thread is never dying it seems... lol

After learning that you were stuck on a one way trip for the difficulty you chose, I decided this was good enough to give the game a try, because I like these types of games. The whole point behind what I said, is to convey that I feel a sense of accomplishment with these types of games, but several people have seen fit to insult and down right be nasty, even suggesting mental problems, when they truly know nothing about me at all, it's quite sad.

Fast forward to now, and they have released a patch that nearly no one is happy with from what I can see. They have nerfed bosses in both normal and easy, which makes literally no sense.

My wife plays this game too, and struggled a lot with the first two bosses, yet because of the games very forgiving "Catch up" mechanics, she was able to gain more levels and master, and eventually win. It's so forgiving, that she is mastery 12 right now, and I am mastery 9, while I have just beaten viper, and she is still grinding the second version of the second boss.
Point is, the game rewards you for continuing to try, and when you succeed, you're supposed to finally feel good, but now, this is cheapened by them just making bosses easier, even for us normal players.

I beat Viper on the second try, but I don't know how nerfed he is, because I can't find any information on this, and I guess I'll never know, I am just left unsatisfied, wishing I played sooner, my bad?

[Ziack]

Origineel geplaatst door Arc:

Origineel geplaatst door Ziack:

Yes yes guys I went and bought the game. Once I learned that going to easy mode was a one way trip and that there is an achievement for beating it on normal. That makes me feel good you see? Anyway, everyone can stop crying now :D

However, them nerfing bosses is incredibly ridiculous considering if you're stuck you can just play easy mode. No one can make that make sense.

So you only cared about difficulty when you weren't aware there was no differentiating achievement to prove you beat it on a higher difficulty. So you don't care about difficulty, you just care that people could possibly think you might have beat it on Easy and now with caring about the nerf you think people will look down on you for beating something post-nerf. Seek help.

People are free to feel about things however they want. people are out here thinking they're female when they're male and you're telling ME to seek help because I like hard games.... huh.. That's a little strange man lmao.

Origineel geplaatst door Stall:

Origineel geplaatst door Mango6Nixy:

Good to know you won’t buy it because some NPC will be playing on easy mode. Thanks for validating your gaming life via a NPC

He ended up buying it lol look at the mouse by his name, dude was all talk.

I did say that a few posts ago

Origineel geplaatst door Darth_Roxs:

Origineel geplaatst door Ziack:

I saw a review saying there is an "Easy mode". How tf do you put an easy mode in a souls game? and why? So sick of this generation of "Gamers"

And you ended up buying it anyway LMAO

As I said

Origineel geplaatst door Riukensei:

Origineel geplaatst door Ziack:

I saw a review saying there is an "Easy mode". How tf do you put an easy mode in a souls game? and why? So sick of this generation of "Gamers"

You will die to the first major boss on Easy mode. I can tell you are not up to the task by how you are talking lol.

I've just gotten to the "Nexus" of this game, forgot it's name, and the only death I had was falling off a cliff that crumbled under me. So no actual boss deaths yet. On normal mode. I assume it gets harder soon.

[- Ðemünhel -]

Origineel geplaatst door SHREDDER:

when you say new generation how old you mean are these people? Iam 37 and i play all action games since 1994 when i started playing video games. Ip lay them on normtal.

So at 37, you must certainly know the difference between a generality and a general trend, and certainly not mistake general trends for generalities, which would mean reasoning in absolutes.

[Ziack]

Origineel geplaatst door - Ðemünhel -:

Origineel geplaatst door Ziack:

I saw a review saying there is an "Easy mode". How tf do you put an easy mode in a souls game? and why? So sick of this generation of "Gamers"

You're absolutely right. The new generation isn't bad, it's just that there are more of them, and a good number of them are bad at games. They're the ones who respond to you with offense, because they recognized themselves.

But the problem isn't them; bad players have always cried for someone to push them to a level they're not at, because mentally, they're children who want to "have fun."

The problem comes from publishers who want to please the masses, that is, quantity, at the expense of quality. This has always meant that we have quality games, but now we have disposable ones. With the forums, noobs were able to express their desire to be strong without making any effort, and... the publishers listened to them... idiots that they are, pushing aside not the geeks, the try-hards, and the like, but simply the good players, who are good simply because they are good, in favor of the mass of children who destroy all current games.

The proof? Since the MOP expansion of World of Warcraft (I don't remember which year), we've observed a casualization of games, that is, a pro-noob policy that, for the publisher, means that games are no longer played but consumed much faster, being easier...

Whose fault is it, behind the publishers?

As always, money, not profitability but maximum profit, specific to Anglo-American countries.

The disgusting capitalism that European countries are discovering and which makes them vomit.

That's why know i know that this game is an easy mode game, i won't buy it, like many others.

Yeah 100% agree with you on everything here. Sadly, it is all about money and yeah, if you look at the steam db on steam itself, you can see the numbers rapidly growing. Obviously the exposure is growing more and more every year and I am quite aware of how people would perceive this post, though it always surprises me just how nasty and cruel people are towards each other over differences in opinions. Quite wild.

[PvWolf666]

Origineel geplaatst door Ziack:

Origineel geplaatst door Arc:

So you only cared about difficulty when you weren't aware there was no differentiating achievement to prove you beat it on a higher difficulty. So you don't care about difficulty, you just care that people could possibly think you might have beat it on Easy and now with caring about the nerf you think people will look down on you for beating something post-nerf. Seek help.

People are free to feel about things however they want. people are out here thinking they're female when they're male and you're telling ME to seek help because I like hard games.... huh.. That's a little strange man lmao.

Origineel geplaatst door Stall:

He ended up buying it lol look at the mouse by his name, dude was all talk.

I did say that a few posts ago

Origineel geplaatst door Darth_Roxs:

And you ended up buying it anyway LMAO

As I said

Origineel geplaatst door Riukensei:

You will die to the first major boss on Easy mode. I can tell you are not up to the task by how you are talking lol.

I've just gotten to the "Nexus" of this game, forgot it's name, and the only death I had was falling off a cliff that crumbled under me. So no actual boss deaths yet. On normal mode. I assume it gets harder soon.

Well done, heres a medal to pump your ego more

[- Ðemünhel -]

Origineel geplaatst door PvWolf666:

Well done, heres a medal to pump your ego more

Another one-liner who feels so insulted when he hears the truth that his only way to deflate is to try to convince the world that the one who said it is necessarily hegemonic or something like that.

When you're bad, you're bad, there's nothing more to say.

Instead, save your energy for progressing on your own ; that'll save you from an intellectual dead end that will only fool children and ignorant adults, my poor friend.

[PvWolf666]

Origineel geplaatst door - Ðemünhel -:

Origineel geplaatst door PvWolf666:

Well done, heres a medal to pump your ego more

Another one-liner who feels so insulted when he hears the truth that his only way to deflate is to try to convince the world that the one who said it is necessarily hegemonic or something like that.

When you're bad, you're bad, there's nothing more to say.

Instead, save your energy for progressing on your own ; that'll save you from an intellectual dead end that will only fool children and ignorant adults, my poor friend.

Oh dear, did I upset you.... lol

[Braydra]

There is an issue of people who should play on easy mode who don't and complain about nerfing normal mode bosses.

Its actually funny that it is the people who should be playing on easy mode are the ones with the massive egos that can't just admin to themselves that they aren't good enough for normal.

They are the first people to say WHO CARES if I need summons and blah blah blah but refuse to play on easy because they aren't patience enough to enjoy a challenge.

[Anglecorpse]

not buying because of that wow im glad it does i guess i suck and im 50 lol

[Norentsu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIiVvS4_ovE

[PvWolf666]

Origineel geplaatst door Braydra:

There is an issue of people who should play on easy mode who don't and complain about nerfing normal mode bosses.

Its actually funny that it is the people who should be playing on easy mode are the ones with the massive egos that can't just admin to themselves that they aren't good enough for normal.

They are the first people to say WHO CARES if I need summons and blah blah blah but refuse to play on easy because they aren't patience enough to enjoy a challenge.

You do realise, that people will learn. You know that don't ya. And when they are a lot better theyll be in your next game also because guess what. Its not an exclusive club.

[Zaney]

I would be okay with the easy mode because its better than nerfing the bosses.. is what i would say if they didn't already do that. Bruh.
What actually was the point of easy mode then? Lies of p already got much of its enjoyment gutted because of the enemy nerfs. Hate seeing it happen again and again because people complain and would rather not change builds, difficulty, use summons etc.

To the people thinking that not wanting to nerf bosses gatekeeping. Its not. it just isn't, I think its gatekeeping to want to shoehorn someone else into the genre they don't like at the expense of people who do.

[Ziack]

Origineel geplaatst door Zaney:

I would be okay with the easy mode because its better than nerfing the bosses.. is what i would say if they didn't already do that. Bruh.
What actually was the point of easy mode then? Lies of p already got much of its enjoyment gutted because of the enemy nerfs. Hate seeing it happen again and again because people complain and would rather not change builds, difficulty, use summons etc.

To the people thinking that not wanting to nerf bosses gatekeeping. Its not. it just isn't, I think its gatekeeping to want to shoehorn someone else into the genre they don't like at the expense of people who do.

Yeah I don't get it either, there is a easy mode literally for people who are struggling, yet they nerf normal mode too. From the reaction I saw on their post, every second post was saying the same thing "Leave normal mode alone". It doesn't make any sense to nerf bosses on normal mode when there is an easy mode.
The game already rewards you with souls and Master for failing, eventually you WILL kill it through sheer persistence. My wife failed a lot of the first two bosses, but got through them because of this system. She doesn't want nerfs.
A lot of people feel cheapened by these nerfs, saying they tried for hours, were getting close, then just 1 or 2 shot the bosses after the patch, making it feel like less of an accomplishment, which is precisely what my original post is trying to convey... but, I guess I still need therapy, or whatever all the nasty people in this thread keep saying lol

[Vadnarr]

Your sense of accomplishment is not impacted if you simply don't use the feature. I don't get what your problem is. Elden Ring is filled with easy-mode features and it was great for the game.

You want to challenge yourself, do it. Nothing stopping you. Not sure why how someone else chooses to play matters to you.

[chorna mavpa]

are you stupid? just don't use it, if you don't need it

[PvWolf666]

They will nerf this game into the ground, and because of your disgusting behaviour over the last two days I will happy watch from the side and cheer.