Finally, a souls-like that isn't actually a counter simulator

[kami]

Honestly, of all the recent souls-likes I've tried, this is the first one to actually not secretly be a counter simulator under the covers parading as a souls-like. Sure, this game has a counter, but it's not broken like in other games where basic attacks do nothing and perfect countering shaves off chunks. That said, while I like most of this game I do have 3 things I didn't like:
1) The game doesn't autosave if you close before resting, so if you kill an elite, but don't have time to go find the next rest point and exit the game, you just lost your progress by closing (yes, using the game's close, not forcing the game to close).
2) Finding a new rest point forces you to rest.
3) Customizing controls won't let you do new key combos. So you can't change counter to alt + q. You can only change to existing key combos or single button presses.

That said, I'll probably still be buying this cause it's a solid souls-like that brings its own new ideas to the genre.

[D. Flame]

Цитата допису sgrey:

Цитата допису D. Flame:

No. DS1 has the best combat, and least as far as PVP goes, and BB had the best combat for single player. Best overall combat in a souls game is from a game not made by Fromsoft, and that is Nioh 2.

That's your taste. I've seen quite a few people believing Sekiro to be the best FromSoft game. Sometimes they draw distinction and say it's the best non-souls game while BB being the best souls game. My personal favorite is Sekiro among the FromSoft games I've played.

Nah, you don't get to say your taste is universal, then try to handwave it away when you get called on it. Sekiro is not universally considered the best. Bloodborne is generally the most praised and requested in the wild, and DS1 had the most in depth PvP, objectively speaking.

[sgrey]

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Цитата допису sgrey:

That's your taste. I've seen quite a few people believing Sekiro to be the best FromSoft game. Sometimes they draw distinction and say it's the best non-souls game while BB being the best souls game. My personal favorite is Sekiro among the FromSoft games I've played.

Nah, you don't get to say your taste is universal, then try to handwave it away when you get called on it. Sekiro is not universally considered the best. Bloodborne is generally the most praised and requested in the wild, and DS1 had the most in depth PvP, objectively speaking.

I didn't say that my taste is universal. You just made that up. I do like Sekiro, which I said, but if you are gonna try and tell me I am the only one who likes Sekiro, then you are just full of crap. Many big souls players either put Sekiro on the same level as Bloodborne or they say it's better. And I am not gonna argue with you about semantics since there isn't a single thing in the world that is liked by everyone everywhere.

[D. Flame]

Цитата допису sgrey:

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Nah, you don't get to say your taste is universal, then try to handwave it away when you get called on it. Sekiro is not universally considered the best. Bloodborne is generally the most praised and requested in the wild, and DS1 had the most in depth PvP, objectively speaking.

I didn't say that my taste is universal. You just made that up.

Orly?

Цитата допису sgrey:

Sekiro is almost universally accepted as having the best combat in FromSoftware games.

[sgrey]

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Цитата допису sgrey:

I didn't say that my taste is universal. You just made that up.

Orly?

Цитата допису sgrey:

Sekiro is almost universally accepted as having the best combat in FromSoftware games.

Yes, in which part of that sentence did you read about my taste?

[D. Flame]

Цитата допису sgrey:

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Orly?

Yes, in which part of that sentence did you read about my taste?

Sekiro is not universally regarded as the best, far from it. You were simply projecting your own tastes and representing it as a universal opinion (it's not).

[sgrey]

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Цитата допису sgrey:

Yes, in which part of that sentence did you read about my taste?

Sekiro is not universally regarded as the best, far from it. You were simply projecting your own tastes and representing it as a universal opinion (it's not).

You mean like you are doing right now? I specifically referenced other people who are considering Sekiro to be the best, and not me. And what would you say if I never played Sekiro and said that or didn't like it? You are tying to be an internet psychic? Go away and read a dictionary or do something more productive than having an argument about word semantics on game forum.

[D. Flame]

Цитата допису sgrey:

You are tying to be an internet psychic?

I don't have to try.

[sgrey]

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Цитата допису sgrey:

You are tying to be an internet psychic?

I don't have to try.

Thank you very much for admitting to being delusional publicly.

[Frid]

Цитата допису kami:

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Nah, until we agree that this game is a counter simulator, nothing else matters.

It's not, have a good life!

Цитата допису kami:

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Nah, until we agree that this game is a counter simulator, nothing else matters.

It's not, have a good life!

Sorry, did you complete the demo on Normal or Easy?

[D. Flame]

Цитата допису Frid:

Цитата допису kami:

It's not, have a good life!

Цитата допису kami:

It's not, have a good life!

Sorry, did you complete the demo on Normal or Easy?

As for me, I finished it on Normal:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409447668

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409939048

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3413354786

I would like to See the video clips of Kami's clears too.

[kami]

Цитата допису sgrey:

Цитата допису kami:

While I get that you're assuming I'm like the meme souls player dodging all the time, I'm not. I like dodging to the blind spot or just out of range and then punishing them or if they're really fast, blocking (I do like the bring guard, but it's not the same as their counter) and then punishing. If it's a weak mob I can kill easily, I like to quickly take them out rather than give them a chance to do anything. Note, that's 3 different styles of fighting, not restricting myself to one but having options.

I don't agree though and I know others who don't, so that's not universal. I don't like Sekiro for more than just the heavy reliance on parries, but it lacks any variety to combat. The only way to vary combat is to change up the side weapon/arm, but you're stuck with the same primary weapon which also kinda leads to a lack of allowance on what you can do in combat. You can't use a spear for more range/speed or a nodachi for heavy attacks. It's katana only.

Bro... I said I like The First Berserker, cause it's NOT a counter simulator lol. I liked Lies of P except for the final boss because you could only either parry or redo your entire build for a very specific build with the shield.

As it happens, I just beat NG++ in Lies of P the other day and almost didn't use parries against the final boss and just ran away to the side against his combos. So that's possible.

And well, I don't know what souls game you are playing. If you are playing or talking about some older original Souls, then sure, what you describe is possible. And I was also specifically talking about bosses as I am not sure why you would draw out battles against basic enemies and dodge and such their attacks if they die in 1-2 hits. I had Elden Ring specifically in mind, where bosses quite often have long combos and you are basically forced to keep dodging forever to hit them once. Or you can play it full time instead of going to your job or school, commit all patterns to memory and do what you describe - roll and punish during the combo.

This game, btw, is very similar in that regard. You can just kill basic enemies, you can dodge them and you can also dodge bosses. You have a long range attack that you can use to take out archers and it will be required if you want to have a better time in the next section. The weapons also make for quite varied plays. But you do have to use brink guard as well. It's actually a positive thing because you are engage with more game mechanics. And if you like this game so much, why leave a negative review? :D

I wasn't having any luck, especially in the second phase when the boss goes into a spam of wide ranged heavy hitting attacks right away. Even using the item that makes all blocks perfect blocks didn't help.

Elden Ring, Code Vein, Nioh, Nioh 2, Surge, Surge 2, the list goes on. I was thinking of Sekiro when talking about counter simulators, beyond that, I was thinking of TFB since it's fresh in my brain, but I see now what you meant. Oh, I don't have that much time to learn every pattern perfectly.

I didn't, I said I was gonna buy it cause I liked it. I just have some minor complaints about a couple systems that could be improved lol

[kami]

Цитата допису D. Flame:

Цитата допису Frid:

Sorry, did you complete the demo on Normal or Easy?

As for me, I finished it on Normal:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409447668

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409939048

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3413354786

I would like to See the video clips of Kami's clears too.

I finished on normal, but I didn't record it cause I have nothing I need to prove. I can load up the save and screenshot it if you want?

[D. Flame]

Цитата допису kami:

Цитата допису D. Flame:

As for me, I finished it on Normal:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409447668

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409939048

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3413354786

I would like to See the video clips of Kami's clears too.

I finished on normal, but I didn't record it cause I have nothing I need to prove. I can load up the save and screenshot it if you want?

Just play through it again and record a clip of the first boss fight.

[Frid]

I dont know if we talk about the same game, I basically gave up on last boss and game wont allow player to just ''block spam''. it will have to be a good block parry.

Its like Sekiro without Stamina. Do three ''non parry / lazy'' blocks and character bends the knee, takes damage.

Unless they changed something.

And actually I have no idea what you talk about when saying '' souls like''. like what? Isnt souls like just endless dodge/roll and attack? Theres like 2 abilities. Attack, dash, Attack, dash.

Sekiro is a bit something else and this Khazan is based on Sekiro or whatever game came before Sekiro.

(BY BLOCK PARRY I MEAN IT HAS TO BE A WELL TIMED BLOCK. SO PLAYER BLOCKS ON THE MOMENT NPC ATTACKS. This is big part of Khazan IN MY HONEST OPINION)

[电动天使]

Цитата допису Frid:

I dont know if we talk about the same game, I basically gave up on last boss and game wont allow player to just ''block spam''. it will have to be a good block parry.

Its like Sekiro without Stamina. Do three ''non parry / lazy'' blocks and character bends the knee, takes damage.

Unless they changed something.

And actually I have no idea what you talk about when saying '' souls like''. like what? Isnt souls like just endless dodge/roll and attack? Theres like 2 abilities. Attack, dash, Attack, dash.

Sekiro is a bit something else and this Khazan is based on Sekiro or whatever game came before Sekiro.

(BY BLOCK PARRY I MEAN IT HAS TO BE A WELL TIMED BLOCK. SO PLAYER BLOCKS ON THE MOMENT NPC ATTACKS. This is big part of Khazan IN MY HONEST OPINION)

Khazan is closer to Nioh, your character is a lot more capable than simply attacking and rolling.