denuvo = no buy

[^7ja^1co]

nuf said

[jab.]

your loss, i wish more games had denuvo just to prove a point that a game can be phenomenal even with denuvo (cough cough Black Myth: Wukong)

[TheProphet]

I would say no regional prices = no buy

[^;..;^ | ViralOmega]

Saves me money if they want to be anti-consumer. Im not paying for a game with no guaranteed DRM removal. if they never remove this crap the game essentially becomes a limited time access the day they abandon the product and corporations abandon products all the time. They dont waste money making sure people can still buy old products

[Frank White]

Originally posted by jqcob:

your loss, i wish more games had denuvo just to prove a point that a game can be phenomenal even with denuvo (cough cough Black Myth: Wukong)

Game being phenomenal has nothing to do with Denuvo,is performance of wukong phenomenal,not it's not game has stutters and everything like literary every game with Denuvo from Jedi Survivor,Dead space remake, Dragons dogma 2,FF 16,only one I think that worked properly was Lies of p ..On top of that all game that don't have any protection outsold everyone like Elden,BG3, Cyberpunk,GoW,Rdr2..Denuvo is stupid on games that a single player,I would understand for competitive games with rank because of cheating but story games makes no sense, modding difficult too,to much overwrite on SSD literary cancer program,not to mention that stronger Denuvo types Kernel level can do whatever it wants without asking you for permission,can literally make GPU do whatever it wants or pc ..

[WarLyric]

Originally posted by TheProphet:

I would say no regional prices = no buy

Kind of goes hand in hand with the DRM Licensing Model: Denuvo often operates on a licensing basis, where developers or publishers pay either:
Per-unit fee: A charge per game sold.
Flat fee: A one-time payment for integration or a fixed duration.
Duration of Use: The cost can vary depending on how long the publisher intends to use Denuvo protection. Some publishers only keep it for the first few months post-launch to deter initial piracy when sales are at their peak.

Unconfirmed estimates from industry insiders and leaked documents suggest that integrating Denuvo can cost anywhere from $50,000 to $500,000+, depending on the above factors. For some games, there may also be ongoing costs for updates or extended use.

1. It Kills Performance
Denuvo slows games down period. It eats up your CPU like it’s starving, which means worse frame rates, stuttering, and even lag. Some games load like they’re running on a potato because of it. Why should we suffer worse performance just because publishers are paranoid about piracy?

2. Always-Online BS
Some games with Denuvo force you to be online 24/7, even for single-player. Like, seriously? Not everyone has perfect internet all the time. What happens if the servers go down, or your connection sucks? You’re locked out of a game you paid for.

3. It Punishes Paying Customers
Here’s the kicker pirates crack Denuvo eventually anyway. So who’s really getting punished? The honest gamers who actually buy the game. We’re stuck with bad performance, stupid online checks, and other garbage while pirates play for free without any of these issues.

4. Goodbye Game Mods
Want to mod your game? Too bad. Denuvo makes it so much harder, sometimes impossible. Modding is a huge part of gaming culture, and Denuvo kills it.

5. It’s Anti-Preservation
What happens if Denuvo's servers shut down? Your game might become unplayable forever. Denuvo is a time bomb for gaming history. It’s like they don’t care if we can’t play these games in the future.

6. It’s a Scam for Publishers
Denuvo isn’t even good at stopping piracy. Most games get cracked within days or weeks. So why even bother? Publishers pay big bucks for this nonsense, and we’re the ones who end up footing the bill.

Denuvo is just corporate greed wrapped in a shiny "anti-piracy" package. It doesn’t stop piracy, it screws over paying customers, and it wrecks games for no good reason. Gamers deserve better.

[^;..;^ | ViralOmega]

Originally posted by WarLyric:

Originally posted by TheProphet:

2. Always-Online BS
Some games with Denuvo force you to be online 24/7, even for single-player. Like, seriously? Not everyone has perfect internet all the time. What happens if the servers go down, or your connection sucks? You’re locked out of a game you paid for.

This always infuriates me about anti-consumer Denuvo DRM. Persona 5 players got locked out of playing their rightfully purchased game for a week because of some Denuvo server issue. And its happened to other games in the past.

Corporations abandon products all the time. The longer these company wait or delay removing Denuvo makes it a higher chance they wont find it financially viable to remove when they abandon them. Thus all these games become unplayable in the future. If it wasnt for crackers back in the day we'd have an entire swath of unplayable games when all the previous DRM schemes died out. Im not spending money on a limited-time access product!

[Wolf Viking]

Denuvo is fine

[BigHen216]

"if your broke" nuf said

[spellsnare]

Originally posted by WarLyric:

Originally posted by TheProphet:

I would say no regional prices = no buy

Kind of goes hand in hand with the DRM Licensing Model: Denuvo often operates on a licensing basis, where developers or publishers pay either:
Per-unit fee: A charge per game sold.
Flat fee: A one-time payment for integration or a fixed duration.
Duration of Use: The cost can vary depending on how long the publisher intends to use Denuvo protection. Some publishers only keep it for the first few months post-launch to deter initial piracy when sales are at their peak.

Unconfirmed estimates from industry insiders and leaked documents suggest that integrating Denuvo can cost anywhere from $50,000 to $500,000+, depending on the above factors. For some games, there may also be ongoing costs for updates or extended use.

1. It Kills Performance
Denuvo slows games down period. It eats up your CPU like it’s starving, which means worse frame rates, stuttering, and even lag. Some games load like they’re running on a potato because of it. Why should we suffer worse performance just because publishers are paranoid about piracy?

2. Always-Online BS
Some games with Denuvo force you to be online 24/7, even for single-player. Like, seriously? Not everyone has perfect internet all the time. What happens if the servers go down, or your connection sucks? You’re locked out of a game you paid for.

3. It Punishes Paying Customers
Here’s the kicker pirates crack Denuvo eventually anyway. So who’s really getting punished? The honest gamers who actually buy the game. We’re stuck with bad performance, stupid online checks, and other garbage while pirates play for free without any of these issues.

4. Goodbye Game Mods
Want to mod your game? Too bad. Denuvo makes it so much harder, sometimes impossible. Modding is a huge part of gaming culture, and Denuvo kills it.

5. It’s Anti-Preservation
What happens if Denuvo's servers shut down? Your game might become unplayable forever. Denuvo is a time bomb for gaming history. It’s like they don’t care if we can’t play these games in the future.

6. It’s a Scam for Publishers
Denuvo isn’t even good at stopping piracy. Most games get cracked within days or weeks. So why even bother? Publishers pay big bucks for this nonsense, and we’re the ones who end up footing the bill.

Denuvo is just corporate greed wrapped in a shiny "anti-piracy" package. It doesn’t stop piracy, it screws over paying customers, and it wrecks games for no good reason. Gamers deserve better.

point 1 :if badly implemented i have plenty game that have denuvo and i run them with no issue

point 2 : how do you even have steam and have a bad internet in the same time you kinda contradict yourself

point 3 : well we did kinda derseved it pirate most of the time will not even buy the game and developping a game today cost million if AAA

point 4 : what the hell no !? Not at all i play total war warhammer 3 and the game is moddable and there even a healthy modding community

point 5 : what happen if steam shut down someday ? (i really doubt that). Well you will says good bye to your games because most game there need to validate the key with the steam server. So that coming back to your point 2

point 6 : denuvo will only be good in the first 2 or 4 week after the game is released it's pretty much there that they will do they're sells and thus that return to your point 3 if ''pirate'' could go see some gameplay video before to maybe buy the game or not we will not be there with denuvo today

so there your point

[WarLyric]

The fact that people are defending Denuvo is funny to me thanks for the laugh.

[spellsnare]

Originally posted by WarLyric:

The fact that people are defending Denuvo is funny to me thanks for the laugh.

personnaly i could care less with denuvo as long my games i play run with no problem. But that make me really angry some will only pirate games. And never buy the game that he/she interested and even more when they clock 60 hours of game. If i was a devs i would get pissed that a game i did put hundred of work that will be insulting

if i find a game that pick my interest i would go look some gameplay, player review and press review to make me a idea if i would buy it or not

[WarLyric]

Originally posted by spellsnare:

Originally posted by WarLyric:

Kind of goes hand in hand with the DRM Licensing Model: Denuvo often operates on a licensing basis, where developers or publishers pay either:
Per-unit fee: A charge per game sold.
Flat fee: A one-time payment for integration or a fixed duration.
Duration of Use: The cost can vary depending on how long the publisher intends to use Denuvo protection. Some publishers only keep it for the first few months post-launch to deter initial piracy when sales are at their peak.

Unconfirmed estimates from industry insiders and leaked documents suggest that integrating Denuvo can cost anywhere from $50,000 to $500,000+, depending on the above factors. For some games, there may also be ongoing costs for updates or extended use.

1. It Kills Performance
Denuvo slows games down period. It eats up your CPU like it’s starving, which means worse frame rates, stuttering, and even lag. Some games load like they’re running on a potato because of it. Why should we suffer worse performance just because publishers are paranoid about piracy?

2. Always-Online BS
Some games with Denuvo force you to be online 24/7, even for single-player. Like, seriously? Not everyone has perfect internet all the time. What happens if the servers go down, or your connection sucks? You’re locked out of a game you paid for.

3. It Punishes Paying Customers
Here’s the kicker pirates crack Denuvo eventually anyway. So who’s really getting punished? The honest gamers who actually buy the game. We’re stuck with bad performance, stupid online checks, and other garbage while pirates play for free without any of these issues.

4. Goodbye Game Mods
Want to mod your game? Too bad. Denuvo makes it so much harder, sometimes impossible. Modding is a huge part of gaming culture, and Denuvo kills it.

5. It’s Anti-Preservation
What happens if Denuvo's servers shut down? Your game might become unplayable forever. Denuvo is a time bomb for gaming history. It’s like they don’t care if we can’t play these games in the future.

6. It’s a Scam for Publishers
Denuvo isn’t even good at stopping piracy. Most games get cracked within days or weeks. So why even bother? Publishers pay big bucks for this nonsense, and we’re the ones who end up footing the bill.

Denuvo is just corporate greed wrapped in a shiny "anti-piracy" package. It doesn’t stop piracy, it screws over paying customers, and it wrecks games for no good reason. Gamers deserve better.

point 1 :if badly implemented i have plenty game that have denuvo and i run them with no issue

point 2 : how do you even have steam and have a bad internet in the same time you kinda contradict yourself

point 3 : well we did kinda derseved it pirate most of the time will not even buy the game and developping a game today cost million if AAA

point 4 : what the hell no !? Not at all i play total war warhammer 3 and the game is moddable and there even a healthy modding community

point 5 : what happen if steam shut down someday ? (i really doubt that). Well you will says good bye to your games because most game there need to validate the key with the steam server. So that coming back to your point 2

point 6 : denuvo will only be good in the first 2 or 4 week after the game is released it's pretty much there that they will do they're sells and thus that return to your point 3 if ''pirate'' could go see some gameplay video before to maybe buy the game or not we will not be there with denuvo today

so there your point

When you said "point 5 : what happen if steam shut down someday ? (i really doubt that). Well you will says good bye to your games because most game there need to validate the key with the steam server. So that coming back to your point 2" It basically shows you have no idea WTF you are talking about so not sure why you keep responding to me.

[spellsnare]

Originally posted by WarLyric:

Originally posted by spellsnare:

point 1 :if badly implemented i have plenty game that have denuvo and i run them with no issue

point 2 : how do you even have steam and have a bad internet in the same time you kinda contradict yourself

point 3 : well we did kinda derseved it pirate most of the time will not even buy the game and developping a game today cost million if AAA

point 4 : what the hell no !? Not at all i play total war warhammer 3 and the game is moddable and there even a healthy modding community

point 5 : what happen if steam shut down someday ? (i really doubt that). Well you will says good bye to your games because most game there need to validate the key with the steam server. So that coming back to your point 2

point 6 : denuvo will only be good in the first 2 or 4 week after the game is released it's pretty much there that they will do they're sells and thus that return to your point 3 if ''pirate'' could go see some gameplay video before to maybe buy the game or not we will not be there with denuvo today

so there your point

When you said "point 5 : what happen if steam shut down someday ? (i really doubt that). Well you will says good bye to your games because most game there need to validate the key with the steam server. So that coming back to your point 2" It basically shows you have no idea WTF you are talking about so not sure why you keep responding to me.

sorry if you get salty mate but face it that tell me you don't know a damn how video game industry even work today.

but next time if you work in the video game industry i would gladly pirate your game and never buy it just to make you mad

[WarLyric]

Again you do not know what you are taking about and now your ignored.

[Centurion(HUN)]

I'm very glad that they have demo... tried it.. same piece of ♥♥♥♥ as Elden Ring nothing added nothing new, same ♥♥♥♥♥♥ combat system + denuvo