Fist Weapons & Suggestions

[Salem]

Since we can play using no weapon at all just our bare fist, I decided to give it a shot and it was pretty fun, the only problem was the break posture damage that was horrible, I would love if the game implement fist weapons or more damage to make it viable as well.
I also would like to reset the Khazan level points like we do in the Skilltree for free.

My gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDZLeL6KhiY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywTmWFi8nso

[ZexxCrine]

if the blade phantom is representative of what we can expect to have in the full game we are missing gauntlets and a giant hammer.

[Kyo Tanaka]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

if the blade phantom is representative of what we can expect to have in the full game we are missing gauntlets and a giant hammer.

But Berserker is a physical class...




The joke is that the two weapons are associated with magic classes in DFO

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

No fist please, maybe a fist animation in a weapon combo, but no fist please.

That said, I know a lot of people like fist or monk or kungfu class. To me its cool, in a kungfu fist game. The problem, in my opinion is, it is immersion breaking. Why even have weapons if your fist can do better than most weapons. If you say fist weapons like meta punching gloves... c'mon. Why have hammer and maces then? They do the same but in reality way better than a stupid fist weapon which makes zero sense.

Its cool but its immersion breaking. Fist and kungfu or karate... should stay in their genre. If you want fist so much. I suggest something better. Nuclear bomb.

[Kyo Tanaka]

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Its cool but its immersion breaking. Fist and kungfu or karate... should stay in their genre.

These type of weapons and wielders exist in the world. They're called Fighter and Monks. Though at this time period, it's only fighters. I'm pretty sure we're going to encounter someone like that in this story too, namely Archbishop Michael considering his connection to Ozma.


Should note that some of the Berserker's most devastating attacks were done using his hands, some of which was already shown off in one of the trailers I believe.

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

I suggest something better. Nuclear bomb.

This also exists in this world. Mainly associated with Gunners in fact.

[sgrey]

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

No fist please, maybe a fist animation in a weapon combo, but no fist please.

That said, I know a lot of people like fist or monk or kungfu class. To me its cool, in a kungfu fist game. The problem, in my opinion is, it is immersion breaking. Why even have weapons if your fist can do better than most weapons. If you say fist weapons like meta punching gloves... c'mon. Why have hammer and maces then? They do the same but in reality way better than a stupid fist weapon which makes zero sense.

Its cool but its immersion breaking. Fist and kungfu or karate... should stay in their genre. If you want fist so much. I suggest something better. Nuclear bomb.

Erm... You do realize you swing weapons with your physical strength? It's not like you grabbed a giant sword and suddenly you are a superman who can cleave mountains with one swing. Weapons aren't going to do anything if you can't swing them hard enough. Also fist weapons are a real thing. Weapons and fists all require martial arts, it fits perfectly well here.
If they make a good and unique move set for fists, I would be all for it.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by Kyo Tanaka:

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Its cool but its immersion breaking. Fist and kungfu or karate... should stay in their genre.

These type of weapons and wielders exist in the world. They're called Fighter and Monks. Though at this time period, it's only fighters. I'm pretty sure we're going to encounter someone like that in this story too, namely Archbishop Michael considering his connection to Ozma.

Sigh, you watch too much anime and kungfu movie. They exist for entertainment and arranged tournaments. They don't exist in a life and death fight. Please....

Nuclear bomb do exist in a game so why not include it in all souls like game? If fist would do it because its cool and anime kungfu fans love it. I suggest shooter fans should have nuclear bomb in souls like or action fighter game too!

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by sgrey:

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

No fist please, maybe a fist animation in a weapon combo, but no fist please.

That said, I know a lot of people like fist or monk or kungfu class. To me its cool, in a kungfu fist game. The problem, in my opinion is, it is immersion breaking. Why even have weapons if your fist can do better than most weapons. If you say fist weapons like meta punching gloves... c'mon. Why have hammer and maces then? They do the same but in reality way better than a stupid fist weapon which makes zero sense.

Its cool but its immersion breaking. Fist and kungfu or karate... should stay in their genre. If you want fist so much. I suggest something better. Nuclear bomb.

Erm... You do realize you swing weapons with your physical strength? It's not like you grabbed a giant sword and suddenly you are a superman who can cleave mountains with one swing. Weapons aren't going to do anything if you can't swing them hard enough. Also fist weapons are a real thing. Weapons and fists all require martial arts, it fits perfectly well here.
If they make a good and unique move set for fists, I would be all for it.

Ever heard of special force fist fighter in battle at any part of history. Yes, the most epic bar fight where fatality is very low...

C'mon, stop watching anime and kungfu movies thinking they are real. Please people...

[sgrey]

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Originally posted by sgrey:

Erm... You do realize you swing weapons with your physical strength? It's not like you grabbed a giant sword and suddenly you are a superman who can cleave mountains with one swing. Weapons aren't going to do anything if you can't swing them hard enough. Also fist weapons are a real thing. Weapons and fists all require martial arts, it fits perfectly well here.
If they make a good and unique move set for fists, I would be all for it.

Ever heard of special force fist fighter in battle at any part of history. Yes, the most epic bar fight where fatality is very low...

C'mon, stop watching anime and kungfu movies thinking they are real. Please people...

You seem to be projecting yourself onto others and also very ignorant. Personally I don't watch anime, but you seem to be awfully familiar with it, considering you keep making references. Why don't you google katar, pata, bagh nakh and vajra-musti for starters, before you post more dumb things here? And also yes, the gauntlet of plate armor was a weapon too.
You should do you homework better.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by sgrey:

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Ever heard of special force fist fighter in battle at any part of history. Yes, the most epic bar fight where fatality is very low...

C'mon, stop watching anime and kungfu movies thinking they are real. Please people...

You seem to be projecting yourself onto others and also very ignorant. Personally I don't watch anime, but you seem to be awfully familiar with it, considering you keep making references. Why don't you google katar, pata, bagh nakh and vajra-musti for starters, before you post more dumb things here? And also yes, the gauntlet of plate armor was a weapon too.
You should do you homework better.

Yeah and there is a special force of katar pata units that turn the tied of battle. Talk about dumb ignorant stupid people.

Also, knights trained for years since young in HEMA Kungfu with acrobatic skills to use nothing but their gauntlet wearing plate armor in battles on their horses. I can see it now, both the knight and his warhorse doing shao Ling stance.

[Rando Calrissian]

There is a consumable that allows you to reset one set of stats/level points. I picked one up in the demo, but was unable to try it, since it can only be used in firelink shrine (they call it something else, but didn't make it look like something else.)

[sgrey]

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Originally posted by sgrey:

You seem to be projecting yourself onto others and also very ignorant. Personally I don't watch anime, but you seem to be awfully familiar with it, considering you keep making references. Why don't you google katar, pata, bagh nakh and vajra-musti for starters, before you post more dumb things here? And also yes, the gauntlet of plate armor was a weapon too.
You should do you homework better.

Yeah and there is a special force of katar pata units that turn the tied of battle. Talk about dumb ignorant stupid people.

Also, knights trained for years since young in HEMA Kungfu with acrobatic skills to use nothing but their gauntlet wearing plate armor in battles on their horses. I can see it now, both the knight and his warhorse doing shao Ling stance.

Right, and knights also wielded giant swords that weighted more than the knights and the hammer of the size so large that you would need a horse to even move it. The most popular HEMA move move with the sword was a whirlwind - jumping into the air and rotating 10 times, causing a small whirlwind to form in the air, followed by spinning like a wheel.
And of course, the most famous special force in history are the half-naked barbarians who dual-wielded axe and sword riding on tigers and slicing through the plate armor.

[Kyo Tanaka]

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Originally posted by Kyo Tanaka:

These type of weapons and wielders exist in the world. They're called Fighter and Monks. Though at this time period, it's only fighters. I'm pretty sure we're going to encounter someone like that in this story too, namely Archbishop Michael considering his connection to Ozma.

Sigh, you watch too much anime and kungfu movie. They exist for entertainment and arranged tournaments. They don't exist in a life and death fight. Please....

Nuclear bomb do exist in a game so why not include it in all souls like game? If fist would do it because its cool and anime kungfu fans love it. I suggest shooter fans should have nuclear bomb in souls like or action fighter game too!

How do you think martial arts as a concepts came to be if they weren't meant for Life and Death situations?

But that's besides the point. The point is that it LITERALLY EXISTS IN THIS WORLD. One of the highest damaging physical classes in the game is the Striker, a subclass of a fighter. Meanwhile, you are against fisticuffs because immersion... in a world where a mecha suit was created by a time traveling mad scientist, threw hands with the literal god of dragons, who is the father is Hismar by the way, on an Alien planet with technology that would make Elon Musk cream his pants. In a world where there is a giant ass squid with a thousand tentacles and mind control powers living in the ocean which is located IN THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ SKY of this world, and tried to escape his prison by brainwashing a flying whale and using it to commit 9/11. A world where we ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ throw hands with literal furries in NEW YORK, TIMES SQUARE. Yeah... I don't think immersion's on the menu, bub.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by sgrey:

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Yeah and there is a special force of katar pata units that turn the tied of battle. Talk about dumb ignorant stupid people.

Also, knights trained for years since young in HEMA Kungfu with acrobatic skills to use nothing but their gauntlet wearing plate armor in battles on their horses. I can see it now, both the knight and his warhorse doing shao Ling stance.

Right, and knights also wielded giant swords that weighted more than the knights and the hammer of the size so large that you would need a horse to even move it. The most popular HEMA move move with the sword was a whirlwind - jumping into the air and rotating 10 times, causing a small whirlwind to form in the air, followed by spinning like a wheel.
And of course, the most famous special force in history are the half-naked barbarians who dual-wielded axe and sword riding on tigers and slicing through the plate armor.

That's why according to your logic. We should also have nuclear bomb.

[sgrey]

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Originally posted by sgrey:

Right, and knights also wielded giant swords that weighted more than the knights and the hammer of the size so large that you would need a horse to even move it. The most popular HEMA move move with the sword was a whirlwind - jumping into the air and rotating 10 times, causing a small whirlwind to form in the air, followed by spinning like a wheel.
And of course, the most famous special force in history are the half-naked barbarians who dual-wielded axe and sword riding on tigers and slicing through the plate armor.

That's why according to your logic. We should also have nuclear bomb.

You are the only one who brings up nuclear bomb and also some kind of appeal to realism in a world of magic where dead guys resurrect, ghosts exist and we are quite literally shown a magical explosion in the trailer.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by sgrey:

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

That's why according to your logic. We should also have nuclear bomb.

You are the only one who brings up nuclear bomb and also some kind of appeal to realism in a world of magic where dead guys resurrect, ghosts exist and we are quite literally shown a magical explosion in the trailer.

Okay then, we should have kamehameha. Make it a dragonball all fist battle game?