The First Berserker: Khazan

The First Berserker: Khazan

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Jayhova Jan 16 @ 8:29pm
Do people in Asia not have HDR monitors/TVs or what?
I notice alot of Korean and Chinese games (e.g. wukong) don't have HDR.

Are you guys gaming on displays from 20 years ago or what? Why do your developers act like HDR doesn't exist?

This is yet another game with no HDR, so I have to inject it using 3rd party tools. Why not just support HDR? It's 2025, almost EVERYONE has HDR capable displays. Come on.
Last edited by Jayhova; Jan 17 @ 12:03am
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缇亚拉 Jan 16 @ 11:59pm 
hey.
it's not Korean and Chinese games fault.
Windows System does not support HDR so well.
You can use RTX HDR, it can also be tweaked to use minimal GPU resources or use Reshade+Lilium HDR analysis tools(inverse tone mapping)+AutoHDR addon by MajorPainTheCactus for reshade. This will enable HDR from SDR, it also looks amazing in majority of SDR games
PONPOKO Jan 17 @ 4:54am 
Kind of ironic considering the best HDR displays are manufactured by a Korean company in Korea and China.
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SHREDDER Jan 17 @ 5:36am 
I still have the same monitor since 2016 and yes it dosent have HDR.
But i have ugpraded the whole pc since then.
tigol Jan 17 @ 6:38am 
Not a lot of people in GENERAL have HDR capable displays.
Mimosa Jan 17 @ 6:52am 
Third party tools tend to do a better job than in game implementation most of the time anyways, so It's a non issue. Even Nvidia's HDR, while not robust in settings, does a pretty good job in this game. And it's basically set it and forget it after initial set up.
tfa Jan 17 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by tigol:
Not a lot of people in GENERAL have HDR capable displays.
Probably a higher percentage on console have it. Not sure how hard it is to implement. Even a lot of cheap TV's now have HDR.
You should ask why devs don't make games with HDR supported, not users. My gaming monitor is approximately 4800 USD with gorgeous HDR features installed for example.
You post and your statement are very childish and ignorant. Even if none of asian developers making HDR games has nothing to do with all the people gaming in this region, not to mention asia is a huge continent.
PONPOKO Jan 17 @ 9:38am 
Originally posted by 🌸🌈彼夜🌹🍀:
You should ask why devs don't make games with HDR supported, not users. My gaming monitor is approximately 4800 USD with gorgeous HDR features installed for example.
You post and your statement are very childish and ignorant. Even if none of asian developers making HDR games has nothing to do with all the people gaming in this region, not to mention asia is a huge continent.

Your monitor cost the same as my entire computer -.- what monitor is that?
Jayhova Jan 17 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by 🌸🌈彼夜🌹🍀:
You should ask why devs don't make games with HDR supported, not users. My gaming monitor is approximately 4800 USD with gorgeous HDR features installed for example.
You post and your statement are very childish and ignorant. Even if none of asian developers making HDR games has nothing to do with all the people gaming in this region, not to mention asia is a huge continent.

How is it ignorant? I’m an Engineer by trade, it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to NOT notice obvious trends over the past year. I am TRAINED to notice trends. It’s my job to notice trends. Just because you don’t notice it, doesn’t mean it’s not true.

Marvel Rivals is a recent Asian game and has no HDR. It’s terrible because it’s an online game so you can’t use mods to inject HDR and you get banned.

Black myth wukong is probably the biggest Asian game of 2024, and it has no HDR.

And now this, also an Asian game with no HDR.

Compare that to western games I’ve bought recently:

STALKER 2 has native HDR
Silent Hill 2 has native HDR
He’ll Divers 2 has native HDR

I could go on.

It’s extremely rude to call me ignorant when you’re the ones who is choosing to close your eyes at the reality of the situation.

There is a problem with Asian developers just ignoring HDR and there is no reason they can’t fix it. The devs for these games are backed by publishers that have ALOT of money. There is no excuse for these Asian companies to not add proper HDR support. They have the technical capability to do it and they have a lot of money.

No more excuses. They either add HDR to the games or I will stop buying. Simple as that.
Last edited by Jayhova; Jan 17 @ 10:04am
My guess would be... cause it doesn't matter. Its getting very granular now, in terms of making things look better. We don't have leaps like PS2 to PS3 anymore and so the thirty little things people want to improve graphics are becoming quite difficult to keep up with and implement. Its no longer just better textures and shaders: its HDR, Raytracing, DLSS and a million lighting engines. These are a ton of different things that they have to develop and implement that each are about a 3% increase in overall graphics. SO all of them together take a ton of time and effort for a twelve percent increase... and only on high-end monitors. It's simply not worth it from a money-spending perspective. At least, thats what I think. YMMV.
IchigoMait Jan 17 @ 12:20pm 
HDR is a pointless gimmick, I can just use SDR and crank up the colors and I get the same result and you wouldn't know the difference if I had it side by side.
It's only marginally different when you try to share screenshots, and just makes hdr screenshots look like garbage when looked with sdr monitor, plus the annoyance of making sure your monitor, cable, game and os all support hdr properly.

It was already annoying to get variable refresh rate (adaptive sync) working properly nvidia drivers so you wouldn't get pulsating effect when fps changes or weird lines, had to use nvidia inspector to enable ultra low motion blur for gsync (hidden nvidia control panel setting).
Last edited by IchigoMait; Jan 17 @ 12:24pm
tfa Jan 17 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by PeepeeStorm:
My guess would be... cause it doesn't matter. Its getting very granular now, in terms of making things look better. We don't have leaps like PS2 to PS3 anymore and so the thirty little things people want to improve graphics are becoming quite difficult to keep up with and implement. Its no longer just better textures and shaders: its HDR, Raytracing, DLSS and a million lighting engines. These are a ton of different things that they have to develop and implement that each are about a 3% increase in overall graphics. SO all of them together take a ton of time and effort for a twelve percent increase... and only on high-end monitors. It's simply not worth it from a money-spending perspective. At least, thats what I think. YMMV.
This is also a console game. Cheap TV's from 2018 have HDR.
HankChen Jan 17 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by IchigoMait:
HDR is a pointless gimmick, I can just use SDR and crank up the colors and I get the same result and you wouldn't know the difference if I had it side by side.
It's only marginally different when you try to share screenshots, and just makes hdr screenshots look like garbage when looked with sdr monitor, plus the annoyance of making sure your monitor, cable, game and os all support hdr properly.

It was already annoying to get variable refresh rate (adaptive sync) working properly nvidia drivers so you wouldn't get pulsating effect when fps changes or weird lines, had to use nvidia inspector to enable ultra low motion blur for gsync (hidden nvidia control panel setting).
HDR is a pointless gimmick??Don't draw conclusions about things you don't understand.
Last edited by HankChen; Jan 17 @ 12:47pm
Jayhova Jan 17 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by IchigoMait:
HDR is a pointless gimmick, I can just use SDR and crank up the colors and I get the same result and you wouldn't know the difference if I had it side by side.
It's only marginally different when you try to share screenshots, and just makes hdr screenshots look like garbage when looked with sdr monitor, plus the annoyance of making sure your monitor, cable, game and os all support hdr properly.

It was already annoying to get variable refresh rate (adaptive sync) working properly nvidia drivers so you wouldn't get pulsating effect when fps changes or weird lines, had to use nvidia inspector to enable ultra low motion blur for gsync (hidden nvidia control panel setting).

HDR has 10-bit color though. Without HDR you get a less accurate colors.

And while you can raise the brightness on your TV, it’s not the same as HDR. In a game with HDR, you can have pitch black environments combined with extremely bright light. The HDR pushes through more light on the exact pixels where it makes sense to do so.

When you raise the brightness, you are raising the brightness for the entire screen, every single pixels, even elements that aren’t supposed to be bright. That ruins the accuracy of the image.

So yeah, HDR is much better.
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Date Posted: Jan 16 @ 8:29pm
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