Mixed feelings 3 hrs in (mostly good?)

[Airbus4Life]

I had no idea this game was a thing until the other day and went in blind. The first 30 min or so was really intriguing and the setting, art, environments, and voice acting really pushed the right buttons. Then things got weird withe the first conflict in the fort. I reaaaly didnt think we were going to go the generic power fantasy route with the mc awakening mysterious powers n such. It really killed the unique intro and setting they laid out. HOWEVER then after another hour it becomes more familiar... This game just turns into persona lol which i guess is fine but it feels oddly cheap when you recognize it. All in all:

Art: 10
Music: 9
Plot: generic 5?
gameplay: persona
dialogue: 9
voiceacting: 10

TLDR: not diggging the power fantasy tropes but the world is interesting enough to continue for now

[L0KisT3r]

I admire those who haven't yet played a full game, don’t know the full story behind the motives of every character in the game, but still have the balls to say that the plot is generic.

[Tsuru]

Both persona and Metaphor are branches of the same tree. Persona is low fantasy. Metaphor is high fantasy.

[ShockedHearts]

Originally posted by L0KisT3r:

I admire those who haven't yet played a full game, don’t know the full story behind the motives of every character in the game, but still have the balls to say that the plot is generic.

funnily enough I cant really think of any other game with the same plot.

an election started from royal magic cast from the death of a king, the main character being one of the many people who are fighting for the throne, not only for power and change but for a secret operation noone knows about behind the scenes.

its rather unique.

[Airbus4Life]

Originally posted by Tsuru:

Both persona and Metaphor are branches of the same tree. Persona is low fantasy. Metaphor is high fantasy.

oh ok interesting

[Airbus4Life]

Originally posted by L0KisT3r:

I admire those who haven't yet played a full game, don’t know the full story behind the motives of every character in the game, but still have the balls to say that the plot is generic.

these were first impressions obviously i dont know how the plot will unfold but sorry for hurting your feelings with impressions of a demo lol

[Airbus4Life]

Originally posted by ShockedHearts:

Originally posted by L0KisT3r:

I admire those who haven't yet played a full game, don’t know the full story behind the motives of every character in the game, but still have the balls to say that the plot is generic.

funnily enough I cant really think of any other game with the same plot.

an election started from royal magic cast from the death of a king, the main character being one of the many people who are fighting for the throne, not only for power and change but for a secret operation noone knows about behind the scenes.

its rather unique.

yea so initially i felt the same way, which is why the sudden power fantasy tropes of the mc gaining mysterious unexplained power for no apparent reason other than being the mc, muddied my impressions. Its a trope but the world itself feels very unique and is why i think its worth playing still.

[War Chief]

Originally posted by L0KisT3r:

I admire those who haven't yet played a full game, don’t know the full story behind the motives of every character in the game, but still have the balls to say that the plot is generic.

the demo is the exact start of the game, you don't need motives or 10+ more hours of story to see if you like something...just stop...not everyones gonna like the game you've put on a pedestal

[Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr]

Art 10 even though it looks like a psp game?

[ElementEvo7]

Yeah, I honestly completely agree with regard to the introduction of the main character suddenly getting powers in that way. That being said, I can also understand people not having any issue with it considering how many people loved that Solo Leveling manwa/anime. The trope of, character on verge of death->awaken godlike powers, is just a super cheap and lazy shortcut.

That being said, I've played nearly 18 hours and was completely addicted to this demo. I enjoy it much more than any Persona game, but the plot and story feel a bit muddy so far. The king is killed and we're desperately trying to save the prince by killing the man who cursed him. BUT.. is it for the sake of helping the Prince take his rightful place as king?
Presumably yes, but then why are WE competing to become king? The angelic voice talking to us very specifically mentioned that we're the ones gaining support of the people and that we are becoming worthy of being king by amassing followers.
Personally, I just want to save the prince, I don't want to become king.
(I'm certain this will be addressed in the full game, just saying this element feels muddy in the demo specifically)

Also, characters keep saying that they will kill Louis when we reach him, but we all just saw what happens to anyone that interferes with this competition of kingly candidacy. When characters say that, I'm left thinking, "What the F_uck are you talking about? You literally can not. We just saw what happens, the dead king's decree will freeze you, and you will have your throat slit. Also RIP Alces". It feels like a line they thoughtlessly recorded and threw in for some cool badass flavor, but it doesn't fit in this context. It makes the characters sound more dumb than cool.

My gripes are more personal and nitpicks. I think the demo is good and the full game will probably be great, especially for people who don't obsess over small atmosphere details or mind tropes being central to the plot.

[Sultryhag]

Did you buy the game on Steam then?

[L0KisT3r]

Originally posted by Airbus4Life:

Originally posted by L0KisT3r:

I admire those who haven't yet played a full game, don’t know the full story behind the motives of every character in the game, but still have the balls to say that the plot is generic.

these were first impressions obviously i dont know how the plot will unfold but sorry for hurting your feelings with impressions of a demo lol

Bro, I think you’re misunderstanding something here.

I'm not making this game. In fact, I'm not even making money from it. There’s no such thing as "hurting your feelings." Maybe it’s yours, since you’re the first person to talk about "hurting feelings". Bruh.

[Toran Blackwater]

I was impressed by the amount we were allowed to play, 8-10h (without mindless grind), not many demos let you play that much. But for the performance, I pretty much liked what I saw and heard.

While the graphics are not stellar, the artwork is great and the overall impression very good. I really dig the music, especially the more weirder tracks like the victory theme. The English voice actors do a fine job and I see no point in switching to Japanese but maybe for a 2nd playthrough in the future.

I really welcome the change to the free Archetype selection, leaving you the option to play with your favourite party members. The hybrid combat system is also a nice change, without the need to go through victory screens for every whimsical fight, improves the pace, especially when it comes to later grind (if needed/wanted).

I'm looking forward to Thursday and hope they bring performance to the standard of their previous titles.

[Airbus4Life]

Originally posted by Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr:

Art 10 even though it looks like a psp game?

yea art 10 but graphics are pretty dated lol. I guess its more like the art style is a 10. character models are atrocious though..

[Airbus4Life]

Originally posted by Sultryhag:

Did you buy the game on Steam then?

nah not yet gott finish the full demo and decide

[Airbus4Life]

Originally posted by L0KisT3r:

Originally posted by Airbus4Life:

these were first impressions obviously i dont know how the plot will unfold but sorry for hurting your feelings with impressions of a demo lol

Bro, I think you’re misunderstanding something here.

I'm not making this game. In fact, I'm not even making money from it. There’s no such thing as "hurting your feelings." Maybe it’s yours, since you’re the first person to talk about "hurting feelings". Bruh.

lol idk man you got pretty defensive there so once again sorry for offending you.