Same boring combat system (persona)

[Af0]

I was hoping this would be different but it's all the same. Hit weak spots to gain extra turns, hp/mp items crucial, grind to gain stat boosts and unlock spells. BOOOORING. JRPG design has been the same for decades and there's little here that's different. Another all style and no substance JRPG.

[Af0]

Originally posted by Chaser324:

Originally posted by Af0:

Western RPGs have developed much better while JRPGs are still rigid and unchanged. No use of environments, positional advantage, terrain, etc etc. Same old grind fest where 99% of battles are easy and repetitive with only bosses that basically test your stats and saved items, rather than your ability to strategise.

They're essentially two completely different genres, so yes, it follows that they give different gameplay experiences. Different people are going to have different preferences. You're free to go play BG3 if that's what you would prefer to spend time playing.

Different genres? We're talking about turn-based combat. They're exactly the same genre at they're core. BG3 and others don't waste your time with frivolous/repetitive battles. With Metaphor, I got bored of fighting the same two enemies without giving much thought and I know for a fact 99% of battles will be exactly like that in the main game. WE're talking 30-50 hours of that - with only boss battles really testing your wit (somewhat). It's lazy game design and people praise it because "oooh so stylish. "

I had fun when I was younger but I just don't have the patience to get through pointless battles just to get to an interesting boss.

The game didn't even let me play on the hardest difficulty mode which was a slap on the face. Archaic game design.

[SKANER]

Originally posted by Griever:

Originally posted by SKANER:

personally im glad that atlus keeps cooking up the best turn based battle systems around and they dont feel the need to appeal to people who dont even like jrpgs in the first place

JRPG doesn't necessarily mean turn based. Turn based is just a feature. A combat system.

im well aware of that, especially since xenoblade (a real time combat jrpg series) is currently my favourite jrpg series, i guess i should’ve specified i meant turn based jrpgs specifically when i said „people who dont like jrpgs”

[EpicNameGuy]

LOL, guy doesn't like JRPGs, plays a JRPG, doesn't like it still, whines.

Trollolol

[Chaser324]

OK. OP is just a person that doesn't like JRPGs that is trolling to annoy people that like JRPGs. Got it.

[TwoDucksOneAnus]

Originally posted by Chaser324:

Between the archetype "job" system and the more SMT-like press turn system, I think it's sufficiently different from Persona to feel new and interesting.

On top of the archetype system, the fact that some accessories give you access to additional magic/abilities is a huge boost for build diversity and strategy. I love that this game feels like a combination of SMT's adult themes with Persona's time management and social systems. Also the change to how hard mode works in this compared to SMT and Persona is so refreshing. Giving the enemy an additional press turn in hard mode is so much better than just making them hit harder.

[TeH FrUiTlOoPz^]

Modern Final Fantasy may be your thing. Maybe Trials of Mana, and visions of mana too.
Anything pre ff13 you'll probably hate, too.

You're probably into those "pew pew pew" *respawn* "pew pew pew" games?

[chaos4000]

It has a lot of substance in the story and everything else and honestly that is fine if you are not into it more power to you if you dont like story driven games i get it i got bored of most shooters honestly they are no fun anymore I wish you luck on your next game venture

[I'm cucked]

Originally posted by TeH FrUiTlOoPz^:

Modern Final Fantasy may be your thing. Maybe Trials of Mana, and visions of mana too.
Anything pre ff13 you'll probably hate, too.

You're probably into those "pew pew pew" *respawn* "pew pew pew" games? :papyruswacky:

You mean the single most popular type of video game that the vast majority of people enjoy?

Is this some slackjaw attempt at a diss?

[methoxetamine]

Originally posted by Af0:

I'm making a point describing how disappointingly similar the game is to persona series. Expected something new and innovative. I've basically played this game before way too many times when it comes to its combat. Hence BORING.

myself and many others are not disappointed, but are infact thrilled that it is this way. press turn with a job system is pure unadulterated kino and i'm glad atlus doesn't listen to you people. press turn is more SMT combat than persona anyway.

[Af0]

Originally posted by TeH FrUiTlOoPz^:

Modern Final Fantasy may be your thing. Maybe Trials of Mana, and visions of mana too.
Anything pre ff13 you'll probably hate, too.

You're probably into those "pew pew pew" *respawn* "pew pew pew" games? :papyruswacky:

No thanks. I avoid button mashers. This game is more or less that for 99% of battles you just have to choose a different button now and again.

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by Af0:

I was hoping this would be different but it's all the same. Hit weak spots to gain extra turns, hp/mp items crucial, grind to gain stat boosts and unlock spells. BOOOORING. JRPG design has been the same for decades and there's little here that's different. Another all style and no substance JRPG.

You clearly don't like these kind of games. Why somehow think a company known for them will not make the thing they're known for lol? This game's devs are LITERALLY the persona pillars.

Sounds more like a problem with you than anything else.

Originally posted by Af0:

Originally posted by TeH FrUiTlOoPz^:

Modern Final Fantasy may be your thing. Maybe Trials of Mana, and visions of mana too.
Anything pre ff13 you'll probably hate, too.

You're probably into those "pew pew pew" *respawn* "pew pew pew" games? :papyruswacky:

No thanks. I avoid button mashers. This game is more or less that for 99% of battles you just have to choose a different button now and again.

Yeah? Do tell. What (J)RPGs do you not consider button mashers that you don't just choose a different button now and then, lmao?

[SirSill]

Play Xenoblade. It has peak jrpg combat

[Zevolta]

Guess the game isn't for you then. Thanks for letting everyone know your opinion. Our lives will never be the same.

[Anon Tokyo]

clown

[I'm cucked]

NintenDo what NintenDon't.



Know what I'm sayin'.