Thoughts on the Demo Story

[Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr]

Was curious what people are thinking about the story and obviously this thread is gonna delve into demo spoilers.

I wanted to say that the minute we were introduced to Grius, I knew he was a dead man walking. He's also the only one who doesn't get a Persona awakening scene. I am very disappointed though because he was a cool character and a rare case where we didn't have teenage looking party member. Of course, I also find the way he died to be quite stupid. He was punished for interfering in the contest, but Julius is allowed to bombard the palace and summon an undead army killing dozens? Why is that not against the rules? I'm just curious what people think. I stopped playing the demo after that happened because it really bothered me. It made little sense and I am wondering if people think it will be explained later or just something you have to deal with. Maybe Grius comes back later? I hope so.

[REBirthTheEdge]

He's the obvious mentor character, so most likely he's dead Jim...

[Herzeleid]

Originally posted by Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr:

Was curious what people are thinking about the story and obviously this thread is gonna delve into demo spoilers.

I wanted to say that the minute we were introduced to Grius, I knew he was a dead man walking. He's also the only one who doesn't get a Persona awakening scene. I am very disappointed though because he was a cool character and a rare case where we didn't have teenage looking party member. Of course, I also find the way he died to be quite stupid. He was punished for interfering in the contest, but Julius is allowed to bombard the palace and summon an undead army killing dozens? Why is that not against the rules? I'm just curious what people think. I stopped playing the demo after that happened because it really bothered me. It made little sense and I am wondering if people think it will be explained later or just something you have to deal with. Maybe Grius comes back later? I hope so.

I wholeheartedly agree, this and the game basically being a Mashup of SMT and persona 5 it seems like it has an identity crisis.. also, my own stupid gripe is that the main characters English VA might as well be a valley girl with his intonation.

[V, The Eldritch Hermitess]

I got really into it from the get go, I don't really feel the same about it having an identity crisis. It feels very much like the devs took what they knew, expanded upon it and are trying something a bit different, but similar - which is what the game has always been promised to be from my understanding.

And while the canon shot was a bit weird, that was about the only oddity with it that I had a problem with and even then I overlooked it almost immediately because of everything else going on.

I'm more excited about the full release than I was before playing the prologue tbh, because I'm fiending for more of it - the game's weird and I love it. It might honestly top out as my favorite Atlus game if it holds up the rest of the way through.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by V, The Eldritch Hermitess:

I got really into it from the get go, I don't really feel the same about it having an identity crisis. It feels very much like the devs took what they knew, expanded upon it and are trying something a bit different, but similar - which is what the game has always been promised to be from my understanding.

And while the canon shot was a bit weird, that was about the only oddity with it that I had a problem with and even then I overlooked it almost immediately because of everything else going on.

I'm more excited about the full release than I was before playing the prologue tbh, because I'm fiending for more of it - the game's weird and I love it. It might honestly top out as my favorite Atlus game if it holds up the rest of the way through.

Based.

[Cyotey]

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it. Especially right at the end before the game opens up for the 3 days it gives you. The man who singlehandedly causes the competition by killing the king also gets a free and easy kill on Grius because the king's magic helps the antagonist do so is one of the dumbest turn of events I have ever seen in a game. "You murdered me so let me stop your assassination for you". Are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kidding me? That was badly written. I also feel very weird about doing other activities while this guy is supposedly actively trying to break in to grab an incredibly powerful weapon. At least with Persona games it makes sense to prepare with those deadlines. It doesn't quite make sense here. I like the lore so far though. Difference races/factions and there's clear racism involved. You don't see that tackled often and I'm sure over time the idea is that differences will be set aside. And the music is either really weird or annoyingly somber. No inbetween so far. I've never been this torn. I want to continue because it really does seem like it'll get more interesting as the game goes on. But that "twist" really annoyed and irritated me.

[Pinkaw]

It feels shallow and rushed tbh
As a Persona fan, intros have always been key parts for me, and the build up to certain revelations has been clearly lacking in this game.

[Klinestife]

i feel like it was pretty clear that the king isn't actually sentient in that scene. it was an automatic response to an assassination attempt on a top ranking contender for the throne that was built into the competition itself. none of the king's described personality fit his depiction in that scene, and the fact that he never even mentioned louis by name makes it super obvious.

as for why louis wasn't punished for active terrorism, that's less clear. my thinking is that there needs to be a direct attempt for assassination on a contender for there to be an intervention, just because that's the only time an intervention was triggered. the cannon shot caused a lot of deaths by collateral, but nobody was actively hit by the cannon shot. it's probably the same deal with the necromancer raising skellies. he didn't do it by hand, so it didn't trigger a response.

that said, i'm curious as to how the game's going to handle that particular rule. it has the potential to get really dumb, or be an interesting limitation that the characters have to work around.

[matteste]

I haven't cleared the demo yet but I have to say I expected a lot more from this
This feels like a hashino vanity project

[SoggieWafflz]

I can't stop thinking about this game. The 2 week wait will be torturous

[KOJIMA KAMINANDESU]

Originally posted by Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr:

Why is that not against the rules?

"Why is <insert politician name> not in jail?"
Watch Metaphor Daily Journal videos #44-49, and you will see the whole 'election magic' thing is just a swipe at the western election / democracy 'system' (read: 'game').

[REBirthTheEdge]

Oh well, I'm getting to the game now.

Let's see how it goes.

[REBirthTheEdge]

I play the first few 15 mins or so, the game seemingly just starts without introduction of the character (but we have these brown screen flashback), so it seems kinda abrupt to me.

An intriguing political story, but I don't want to spoil myself too much.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Tho I'm kinda glad we are seeing blood and people dying just seconds in.
Enough with the fake guns in modern Persona (remember Persona 1+2 have real guns, yep, they were packing real guns in school).

[zhligw]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Tho I'm kinda glad we are seeing blood and people dying just seconds in.
Enough with the fake guns in modern Persona (remember Persona 1+2 have real guns, yep, they were packing real guns in school).

What do you need to see blood for? its about the tactics and overall problem solving in a game. You must be very immature to need this in your game and haven't lived long enough to experience enough real violence. Well joint the military and get into real combat or face someone like me in a real boxing match and see your own blood and well see how much fun it is. In persona I guess you don't understand that it was intended to be metaphoric and referencing to ones inner beginning and self discovery, inner conflicts facing one's own demons. As for guns in class. Read the news the real news{not infowars) about what's happening with that. It's not cool not at all unless you're so immature that you think its like a video and you don't have to take responsibility for real actions.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by zhligw:

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Tho I'm kinda glad we are seeing blood and people dying just seconds in.
Enough with the fake guns in modern Persona (remember Persona 1+2 have real guns, yep, they were packing real guns in school).

What do you need to see blood for? its about the tactics and overall problem solving in a game. You must be very immature to need this in your game and haven't lived long enough to experience enough real violence. Well joint the military and get into real combat or face someone like me in a real boxing match and see your own blood and well see how much fun it is. In persona I guess you don't understand that it was intended to be metaphoric and referencing to ones inner beginning and self discovery, inner conflicts facing one's own demons. As for guns in class. Read the news the real news{not infowars) about what's happening with that. It's not cool not at all unless you're so immature that you think its like a video and you don't have to take responsibility for real actions.

Yeah I just want real violence and stake, like mainline SMT, and now this game.

The whole fake guns in post-Persona 2 Personae are ridiculous LMAO.

Glad this game people are soldiers and fight with real weapons, and the monsters really look disturbing.