Why won’t Atlus make a “cool” protagonist anymore??

[Sgt.Pepper]

I don’t want to diminish the VA’s work since they both (JP and ENG) did a great job… but this character doesn’t fit the world at all… I feel like I could meet someone like the Protag in San Francisco or something. I seriously can’t take him seriously as a formidable warrior. Even Joker is more intimidating a character. It seems like each protag is just getting wimpier and wimpier. We need a character like Yu Narukami again. Don’t get me wrong I loved persona 5 and 3 but I mean come on. The MC sounds and looks like a sword art online character

[zero]

the p4 protag is a blank slate that has both many awkard/silly choices as well as "cool" ones, how you define them is up to you.

in the same vein you have plenty of choices in this game to do the cool action, or just say something dumb, though i did notice there is a lot less "dumb" answers this time around

[Klinestife]

it feels like you’re one of the people who conflate anime yu with game yu. game yu is the most blank slate out of all the persona protagonists.

[Sixtyfivekills]

I'll admit, another beast like Demifiend would be nice.


Weapons? Firearms? Nah son we throwing hands.

[SevenNights]

Metaphor is clearly made for female fandom. Girly protagonist and girly prince. Igor is replaced with a gay. It destroyed my desire to keep on playing.

[zero]

at least the topic creator made sense, i have no idea what that person is saying.

[Klinestife]

Originally posted by SevenNights:

Metaphor is clearly made for female fandom. Girly protagonist and girly prince. Igor is replaced with a gay. It destroyed my desire to keep on playing.

what makes more gay?

[Shrinkshooter]

Does the protag of SMT V meet the necessary threshold of "cool"? I'd say so, despite Atlus giving him overtly feminine features. Genuine question, because I'm not sure if we're using "cool" as actual coolness factor or like a stand-in for masculine bad-azzery.

That aside, it strikes me as totally blatant that there are some aspects of this game that seem like outright fujoshi bait. Why, I haven't the slightest idea.

[Sinkitsune]

the director only knows how to make ONE type of Protag. Generic Male

Female Protags scare him and he thinks they dont work as protagonists.

[SolidPayne]

I completely disagree, One complaint I have with Persona 4 and 5 is that they go out of their way to make Joker and Yu cool and make all the other male party members look lame by comparison. Persona 3 everyone was cool or at least interesting in their own way, not so much with 4 and 5 so I kinda like how the MC in this game is not some OP gary stew (for lack of a better word) that everyone worships

[SolidPayne]

Originally posted by SevenNights:

Metaphor is clearly made for female fandom. Girly protagonist and girly prince. Igor is replaced with a gay. It destroyed my desire to keep on playing.

Yeah if only he was a loli instead then you would like him

[Demon Swords]

The Protag is pretty much a sheltered kid that is only on this quest because he was one of the few young people of his community and has a deep connection to the prince. (he wasn't even meant to do any fighting in the first place, just pass along a message.)

No matter how difficult the world he lives in is, a person who lived a sheltered life will never be a seasoned warrior at the get go.

I think its reasonable that Joker, a person that actively fought against an injustice and got severely punished for it, (in a story with a heavy theme about rebelling corruption) would have a more intimidating vibe then a kid that was sheltered in a hidden community and is most likely seeing the world and experiencing its severe hardships for the first time.

[Demon Swords]

Originally posted by Sinkitsune:

the director only knows how to make ONE type of Protag. Generic Male

I think the Protags in these games are meant to be self inserts, so the more generic the character is, the better. (and if its a self-insert and your only going to have one gendered Protag then having the character share the same gender as your target audience is probably better for sales.)

Also at least for the persona games, the thing that makes the Protag special is the flexibility of his personality (hence why they have multiple personas). So having the character be a self insert actually makes sense thematically for the story.

Originally posted by Sinkitsune:

Female Protags scare him and he thinks they dont work as protagonists.

They have a formula that works. Why should they change it? I would rather they have some repetitive aspects and do it well then try something and fail spectacularly. There are plenty of game studios that tired to change a working formula and not only fail to gain a new audience, but also upset the old fans. The more they repeat some things like a similar Protag and game-play mechanic, the more effort they can put into other aspects like the rest of the story. and also the more you repeat the faster you can make the games. Why take such a risk when they can already succeed with much less effort needed.

I never played the Original persona 3 that had a female Protag option, but i assume even if they did have a female one she would also end up being pretty similar (a cool quite type, since its the easiest base for a self insert character.) Unless they are going to make the character have a much bigger personality and more directly affect the plot, I don't see why having a female Protag would really change much.

[Ancient Toaster]

Originally posted by SevenNights:

Metaphor is clearly made for female fandom. Girly protagonist and girly prince. Igor is replaced with a gay. It destroyed my desire to keep on playing.

People are so insecure anymore.

[SolidPayne]

Originally posted by Ancient Toaster:

Originally posted by SevenNights:

Metaphor is clearly made for female fandom. Girly protagonist and girly prince. Igor is replaced with a gay. It destroyed my desire to keep on playing.

People are so insecure anymore.

based on his PFP, I'd say this SevenNights guy is probably a lolicon so just laugh at him

[Sarge the Erdrick dog dawg]

Originally posted by SevenNights:

Metaphor is clearly made for female fandom. Girly protagonist and girly prince. Igor is replaced with a gay. It destroyed my desire to keep on playing.

So what is Griffith in Berserk then?