I'd like these games more if....

[Syn]

.. the protagonist wasn't always a generic Kirito guy.

Seriously. Stop being boring. Kirito sucks. Sorry SAO fans, it's true.

[hush]

you can act like an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in the game though,

[zero]

huh, isn't the point of calling someone a kirito type that they're a mary sue edgelord, rather then just generic?

[ShockedHearts]

the main character is not a mary sue and looks nothing like Kirito. they also have very different personalities as a whole...

are you just saying anime boy bad?

[Swimfan]

Originally posted by Syn:

.. the protagonist wasn't always a generic Kirito guy.

Seriously. Stop being boring. Kirito sucks. Sorry SAO fans, it's true.

The main character is the definition of a blank slate which is by far the best way to make the player emphasize with him. If he had more personality, he'd be WAY more devicive (and looking at how long this game is that could seriously ruin the experience for some).

Choosing "boring" over "risky" is sadly very adivsable in this situation.

[FluffyPotato]

So does this game not have a customizable main character? Like I just read the description thinking this game seems interesting and there was no mention who the main character is so I came here to look for answers while the demo downloads.

I too hate how JRPGs always have the most barebones and boring protagonist who is also very generic black haired guy. Like give us a customizable main character instead if you aren't gonna give them a personality anyways.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

So does this game not have a customizable main character? Like I just read the description thinking this game seems interesting and there was no mention who the main character is so I came here to look for answers while the demo downloads.

I too hate how JRPGs always have the most barebones and boring protagonist who is also very generic black haired guy. Like give us a customizable main character instead if you aren't gonna give them a personality anyways.

No, this is JRPG strong point, it has a pre-made character, sometimes with their own personality instead of character creation.

[FluffyPotato]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

So does this game not have a customizable main character? Like I just read the description thinking this game seems interesting and there was no mention who the main character is so I came here to look for answers while the demo downloads.

I too hate how JRPGs always have the most barebones and boring protagonist who is also very generic black haired guy. Like give us a customizable main character instead if you aren't gonna give them a personality anyways.

No, this is JRPG strong point, it has a pre-made character, sometimes with their own personality instead of character creation.

That would be great if they had a personality but the vast majority of these games the protagonist has the personality of an AI generated stick figure. Like Tales of Berseria is the only JRPG that comes to mind where the protagonist had a personality.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

No, this is JRPG strong point, it has a pre-made character, sometimes with their own personality instead of character creation.

That would be great if they had a personality but the vast majority of these games the protagonist has the personality of an AI generated stick figure. Like Tales of Berseria is the only JRPG that comes to mind where the protagonist had a personality.

The SMT protags are usually silent protags where you can choose dialog options, in this case, it's the same.
I think the characters are only boring if you are boring.

[FluffyPotato]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

That would be great if they had a personality but the vast majority of these games the protagonist has the personality of an AI generated stick figure. Like Tales of Berseria is the only JRPG that comes to mind where the protagonist had a personality.

The SMT protags are usually silent protags where you can choose dialog options, in this case, it's the same.
I think the characters are only boring if you are boring.

No idea what SMT stands for but if the game has dialogue options with actual consequences then it may be a bit more interesting as a game but doesn't give the protagonist any more personality and a customized main character would actually make more sense. But if it's like the current generation of Bethesda games where the dialogue options are Yes, Yes (Sarcastic), Later and Question then it doesn't make the game any better.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

The SMT protags are usually silent protags where you can choose dialog options, in this case, it's the same.
I think the characters are only boring if you are boring.

No idea what SMT stands for but if the game has dialogue options with actual consequences then it may be a bit more interesting as a game but doesn't give the protagonist any more personality and a customized main character would actually make more sense. But if it's like the current generation of Bethesda games where the dialogue options are Yes, Yes (Sarcastic), Later and Question then it doesn't make the game any better.

The game does have different endings, so yes, you are in place.

SMT stands for Shin Megami Tensei (True Goddess Reincarnation), the core Atlus franchise.

[FluffyPotato]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

No idea what SMT stands for but if the game has dialogue options with actual consequences then it may be a bit more interesting as a game but doesn't give the protagonist any more personality and a customized main character would actually make more sense. But if it's like the current generation of Bethesda games where the dialogue options are Yes, Yes (Sarcastic), Later and Question then it doesn't make the game any better.

The game does have different endings, so yes, you are in place.

SMT stands for Shin Megami Tensei (True Goddess Reincarnation), the core Atlus franchise.

Multiple endings don't make the protagonist more interesting either though. My main complaint is that if you aren't using a customized main character at least make that character their own person with their personality, history, preferences, etc but like every JRPG has a fixed protagonist with less personality than a stick figure and could be replaced with a customized one with no loss to story quality and would actually make the self insert more doable.

I have been playing the demo now and this game seems to be in an even weirder category where you name the protagonist but can't choose their look, gender or anything. Their personality so far is definitely in the stick figure category though. The fairy with you has a personality so it's not like they are bad writers, I just don't get why JRPGs do that.

[REBirthTheEdge]

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

The game does have different endings, so yes, you are in place.

SMT stands for Shin Megami Tensei (True Goddess Reincarnation), the core Atlus franchise.

Multiple endings don't make the protagonist more interesting either though. My main complaint is that if you aren't using a customized main character at least make that character their own person with their personality, history, preferences, etc but like every JRPG has a fixed protagonist with less personality than a stick figure and could be replaced with a customized one with no loss to story quality and would actually make the self insert more doable.

I have been playing the demo now and this game seems to be in an even weirder category where you name the protagonist but can't choose their look, gender or anything. Their personality so far is definitely in the stick figure category though. The fairy with you has a personality so it's not like they are bad writers, I just don't get why JRPGs do that.

Multiple endings mean some basic choices and consequences, and see how different the worlds might be after the ending.
I will always preset character with a cool design over custom preset ones.
The protag definitely has personality, and I don't find him boring either, he has the typical japanese polite but actually kind of heart and courageous attitude.

[FluffyPotato]

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

Multiple endings don't make the protagonist more interesting either though. My main complaint is that if you aren't using a customized main character at least make that character their own person with their personality, history, preferences, etc but like every JRPG has a fixed protagonist with less personality than a stick figure and could be replaced with a customized one with no loss to story quality and would actually make the self insert more doable.

I have been playing the demo now and this game seems to be in an even weirder category where you name the protagonist but can't choose their look, gender or anything. Their personality so far is definitely in the stick figure category though. The fairy with you has a personality so it's not like they are bad writers, I just don't get why JRPGs do that.

Multiple endings mean some basic choices and consequences, and see how different the worlds might be after the ending.
I will always preset character with a cool design over custom preset ones.
The protag definitely has personality, and I don't find him boring either, he has the typical japanese polite but actually kind of heart and courageous attitude.

I have been playing for a fair bit now and the choices in the game don't seem to matter at all, a lot even have identical responses irrelevant of what you pick. The game outright doesn't let you choose things it doesn't want, for example before and after the first battle with the bald religious elf. There's even not much voice acting for the protagonist. Also, yea the protagonist has the most generic JRPG main character personality so far as in, not much of one. God Eater games had a protagonist with more personality and those were fully customizable. Having a custom character here wouldn't have changed a thing so far, just improved the experience.

The game itself is pretty good though, the companion characters are at least interesting.

[zero]

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Multiple endings mean some basic choices and consequences, and see how different the worlds might be after the ending.
I will always preset character with a cool design over custom preset ones.
The protag definitely has personality, and I don't find him boring either, he has the typical japanese polite but actually kind of heart and courageous attitude.

I have been playing for a fair bit now and the choices in the game don't seem to matter at all, a lot even have identical responses irrelevant of what you pick. The game outright doesn't let you choose things it doesn't want, for example before and after the first battle with the bald religious elf. There's even not much voice acting for the protagonist. Also, yea the protagonist has the most generic JRPG main character personality so far as in, not much of one. God Eater games had a protagonist with more personality and those were fully customizable. Having a custom character here wouldn't have changed a thing so far, just improved the experience.

The game itself is pretty good though, the companion characters are at least interesting.

thats pretty common is altus games: you have the right answer(you get rewards), the wrong answer(they hate you), and the funny answer(they hate you but its funny), none of it actually matters, the right answer just gives you resource.

there is never really any choice in them until it comes down to like The Moment in golden/royal, but otherwise you can play the entire game just saying the wrong thing and it continues.

[Swimfan]

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

Originally posted by REBirthTheEdge:

Multiple endings mean some basic choices and consequences, and see how different the worlds might be after the ending.
I will always preset character with a cool design over custom preset ones.
The protag definitely has personality, and I don't find him boring either, he has the typical japanese polite but actually kind of heart and courageous attitude.

I have been playing for a fair bit now and the choices in the game don't seem to matter at all, a lot even have identical responses irrelevant of what you pick. The game outright doesn't let you choose things it doesn't want, for example before and after the first battle with the bald religious elf. There's even not much voice acting for the protagonist. Also, yea the protagonist has the most generic JRPG main character personality so far as in, not much of one. God Eater games had a protagonist with more personality and those were fully customizable. Having a custom character here wouldn't have changed a thing so far, just improved the experience.

The game itself is pretty good though, the companion characters are at least interesting.

Yeah it's super annoying - promising a new I.P. and just lazily dragging all faults of the old I.P.s along. Nowadays after tons of good games in which your choices matter, this is just a very lazy way of writing and it actively keeps me from enjoying some of the otherwise well directed cutscenes. If all my options basically boil down to "Yes, please!", I feel insulted in my base intelligence as a human being. I'd prefer if they'd drop their stupid windowdressing and not offer any choices if they don't matter anyways.
Also: I encountered an outragous moment in game in which they ask for your advice, you pick the second option and then your crew just overrules you. I swear I almost Alt+F4 out of the game bc. of how stupid that was.