Metaphor: ReFantazio

Metaphor: ReFantazio

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Larry Oct 11, 2024 @ 8:55pm
Why is the country in the game reffered to as a kingdom?
The game's description straight up says your voting for a new leader, you are playing in a democracy.
Originally posted by Starlesss:
technically you don't vote tho, the previous king just reads your mind in who you think would be best
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REBirthTheEdge Oct 11, 2024 @ 8:58pm 
Because in this country, you cast your vote for a king.
This was actually a thing, but mostly in the Holy Roman Empire, and only the people of importance (like dukes or bishops) can vote.
zero Oct 11, 2024 @ 8:58pm 
its the literal first vote and everything before then was by royal blood, you learn all of that basically right before the first dungeon.
Klinestife Oct 11, 2024 @ 9:00pm 
because there was a king.
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Starlesss Oct 11, 2024 @ 9:02pm 
technically you don't vote tho, the previous king just reads your mind in who you think would be best
Larry Oct 11, 2024 @ 9:06pm 
Originally posted by zero:
its the literal first vote and everything before then was by royal blood, you learn all of that basically right before the first dungeon.
That whole concept just seems ridiculous to me. Why would anyone in a position of power respect a dead man's wishes and not attempt to seize power? Are the people "voting" for an entire bloodline? why even have a king if any peasant's family can be elevated to royalty by popular opinion? And if they are just voting for a singular "king" and then keep voting in new ones when said king's term is done then how is it still a kingdom?

I am sorry for barraging you with questions. I'd usually never look at a game like this but it's description was so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wacky to me I had to say something. Again sorry for wasting your time.
Larry Oct 11, 2024 @ 9:07pm 
Originally posted by Starlesss:
technically you don't vote tho, the previous king just reads your mind in who you think would be best
I understand, in the end vote or not Ghost king truly gets the final say.
Seisachtheia Oct 11, 2024 @ 9:09pm 
There are elected monarchies in the world, Vatican City for example is technically an elected absolute monarch as the Pope is both king and head of the Catholic Church.

Not to mention the interesting thing that happened with Spain at the end of the Francoist regime when the King decided to transition the country out of dictatorial and into democratic institutions.
zero Oct 11, 2024 @ 9:12pm 
Originally posted by Larry:
Originally posted by zero:
its the literal first vote and everything before then was by royal blood, you learn all of that basically right before the first dungeon.
That whole concept just seems ridiculous to me. Why would anyone in a position of power respect a dead man's wishes and not attempt to seize power? Are the people "voting" for an entire bloodline? why even have a king if any peasant's family can be elevated to royalty by popular opinion? And if they are just voting for a singular "king" and then keep voting in new ones when said king's term is done then how is it still a kingdom?

I am sorry for barraging you with questions. I'd usually never look at a game like this but it's description was so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wacky to me I had to say something. Again sorry for wasting your time.
also shown: anyone who tries to kill a contender outright gets stopped via magic
BLAZE Oct 11, 2024 @ 9:15pm 
brother you have to read a little anyway, at the beginning of the game we tell you about the royal weapon which is so powerful that it allows the other country not to attack, literally the atomic bomb.

especially since the power of the king is powerful and can punish those who try to take power, we just have to see how precisely this weapon was taken after the seal was released.

and all this because the prince is dead in people's heads.

and also do not forget that the prince and the king have the same idea and dream of having a country like the book with utopia.

in short, follow the story
Klinestife Oct 11, 2024 @ 9:16pm 
Originally posted by Larry:
Originally posted by zero:
its the literal first vote and everything before then was by royal blood, you learn all of that basically right before the first dungeon.
That whole concept just seems ridiculous to me. Why would anyone in a position of power respect a dead man's wishes and not attempt to seize power?

this is actually addressed directly in a scene that starts shortly after the demo. basically, if you try to do that, the omnipresent giant head in the sky will use magic to forcefully stop you.

as for your other questions, the king was established to be a naive sort who believed in unite. since his son was presumed dead, he probably forced this contest to try to bring everybody together by having them pick their next leader (even though there are obvious problems with that).

and then there's the matter of royal magic. i still don't know what the hell that entails, but i think it's tied to a specific bloodline and is also crucial for the kingdom to keep going. so, presumably, whoever is chosen as the next king will also have the royal magic in their bloodline. i don't know what would happen if they die without an heir yet. presumably, they'd also have to set this contest up in advance.
Larry Oct 11, 2024 @ 9:30pm 
Originally posted by Seisachtheia:
There are elected monarchies in the world, Vatican City for example is technically an elected absolute monarch as the Pope is both king and head of the Catholic Church.

Not to mention the interesting thing that happened with Spain at the end of the Francoist regime when the King decided to transition the country out of dictatorial and into democratic institutions.
but for most of those elective monarchies don't the electors tend to be just people of rank/privilege as the HRE guy above said.

Also I can picture a kingdom transitioning into a democracy especially in more modern times, I just find the notion of organizing the entire kingdom's low-born population into a election season to decide on a new King in a age where swords are still the soldier's mainstay in combat.
Xariot Oct 11, 2024 @ 10:03pm 
lol
I thought the woke/anti-woke threads were nuts, then this dude comes along...
REBirthTheEdge Oct 12, 2024 @ 5:34am 
Originally posted by Larry:
Originally posted by Seisachtheia:
There are elected monarchies in the world, Vatican City for example is technically an elected absolute monarch as the Pope is both king and head of the Catholic Church.

Not to mention the interesting thing that happened with Spain at the end of the Francoist regime when the King decided to transition the country out of dictatorial and into democratic institutions.
but for most of those elective monarchies don't the electors tend to be just people of rank/privilege as the HRE guy above said.

Also I can picture a kingdom transitioning into a democracy especially in more modern times, I just find the notion of organizing the entire kingdom's low-born population into a election season to decide on a new King in a age where swords are still the soldier's mainstay in combat.
I play over this part of the game.

It is explained in the game very early on, the dead King with no heir decides to use ancient magic to make everyone vote on in their head, this vote mechanism is magic in nature, and the more citizenry think/support the candidate in their head, said candidate will win.

The reason the King does this though, it's unknown, but rest assured that this part is explained.
S Oct 12, 2024 @ 5:48am 
Elective monarchies were common all across Europe until the 18th century.
Last edited by S; Oct 12, 2024 @ 5:49am
Hatless Oct 12, 2024 @ 5:58am 
this is my kingdom come this is my kingdom come
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